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Patrick McMahon <[log in to unmask]>
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If we fail to learn from the past we are doomed to repeat it.....

-----Original Message-----
From:   PAUL,GUY (HP-Boise,ex1) [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
Sent:   Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:52 PM
To:     [log in to unmask]
Subject:        Re: [HP3000-L] Manufacturers that discontinue ...

Since you bring up Apollo...

Wasn't the reason to aquire Apollo, then #2 in workstations, so
that Apollo + HP = #1 in workstations to overtake Sun?

Sun stayed #1 as you may recall.

Seems the lessons from the past haven't been learned..

gp
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Seybold [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 09:44
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Manufacturers that discontinue ...


Hello Friends:

Greg Cagle writes that in 1989, Apollo's customer base showed
character by doing these things:

"people bit the bullet, did what they had to"

and went along with HP's plans to discontinue their product.

What were the costs of biting, and that doing? Who lost work, spent
money earmarked for growth? The two above phrases don't begin to
suggest how much effort Apollo customers spent switching off their
systems, machines whose biggest sin appears to be "they weren't fast
enough." Even at that, it's a sin more serious than the 3000's --
"you're not something we can sell in big enough numbers anymore,"
says HP.

It's 12 years after the Apollo elimination, and HP customers have the
Internet as a tool to gather as a group. Commodity computing is the
rage at HP now, but that is pitted against the advantage the Internet
brings to a customer. Commodity assumes you all pretty much want the
same product, so distinguishing models can be dropped. Your specific
needs are not as important as the needs of the many.

Standing up for what you need is noble, too. Character can be
demonstrated in many ways other than laying down.

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