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Reef Fish <[log in to unmask]>
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SouthEast US Scuba Diving Travel list <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 31 Mar 2002 08:55:00 -0500
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On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 18:45:12 +1100, Christian Gerzner
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>I, and I dare say all the others who have criticised you of late
>(includes those that didn't bother to post), simply don't give a damn
>about the subject matter of the post.

The subject matter is about how voting should be conducted IN THE FUTURE,
if it is to be conducted at all.

It's about DEMOCRACY.

It's about how the VOTING PROCESS should be done in a DEMOCRACY.

It's about FREE SPEECH in a DEMOCRACY, regarding ISSUES.

If you and "all the others" whom you represent don't give a damn
about the subject matter (which was what I posted in the post in
question), then you should speak up against THOSE ISSUES, not about
me who draws attention to those issues since we DO VOTE.


>What we  DO give a damn about is your attitude.

That's your problem.  When it comes to matters of principle which
I hold dear, there is NO COMPROMISE.  If you want to disagree with
the ISSUE about DEMOCRACY, VOTING PROCESS, or FREE SPEECH, you are
completely free to speak up against what I stand for.  Your problem,
Christian, is that in a matter of REAL ISSUES, you don't give a
damn about the ISSUE, but attack the person who bring up the issue
to be discussed, simply as a continuation of your behavior in other
trivial matters of discussion that came up on this list.  That holds
for YOU, Mike Levy, and Ken Smith.

That in a nutshell is exactly what happened.


>Maybe I should withdraw my comment as to your intelligence.
>
>Christian

That would not make an iota of difference in my intelligence or
yours, but more importantly, the ISSUE that's there to be addressed,
whether you give a damn or not.

-- Bob.

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