John,

        The efforts of the OpenMPE movement have been going on since mid-morning,
November 14th.  There are well over 200 companies, vendors, and HP employees
in the discussion group.  The candidates for the Board of Directors had a
nice cross session including end-users, consultants, application vendors,
and utility vendors.  HP tells us they are listening but that no decision
has been made AT ALL.  I believe the community is pulling together in the
same basic direction.  There are several options and concepts that are being
discussed, such as migration versus emulation, etc.

        It should be pointed out the this is not a "Linux" style open source
effort.  HP officials have already indicated through various means (i.e.,
article, conversations, etc.) that they are not really interested in making
the MPE source code "open".  This is more of what you described below, a
cooperative non-profit company that would take control of bug fixes and
enhancements of the MPE environment at some future date.

        Does it have enough support to be successful?  From the user and vendor
community it would appear so but it is too early to know for certain.  From
HP, we don't know yet but that is what we hope to find out in the near
future.

Thanx,
        Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
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Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Opensource modeling the development of MPE


I agree, Jon.  But I don't think alot of people knew of your efforts...I
did not until last Monday.  So do you have a solution with enough support
to be successful?  Or do we have an Afghanistan here where several parties
are pulling in different directions and harmony is non-existent?

John Lee

At 11:32 AM 1/9/02 -0500, Jonathan M. Backus wrote:
>
>       Wow, and we are back to OpenMPE, Incorporate.  A non-profit
cooperative
>created to do just that.  And the cross section of the MPE community to
>"steer the ship" is the Board of Directors that was being voted on Monday
>and Tuesday of this week.  The final results of the voting have not been
>released yet but it will be known this week.  Details can be found at
>www.TechGroupMD.com/OpenMPE.htm.
>
>Thanx,
>       Jon
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
>Behalf Of John Lee
>Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:27 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Opensource modeling the development of MPE
>
>
>All of Jeff's points confirm my belief that the only way MPE will survive
>is if it is incorporated with a governing board giving direction to a
>President and staff.  It can be run as a non-profit cooperative as we've
>been discussing, but someone has to steer the ship and be accountable for
>it to succeed.  In my opinion, it has to be run as a business...it's going
>to have issues of supply and demand, cash flow, profit and loss, R and D,
>etc., etc., and if these aren't handled properly, the entity won't survive.
>
>John Lee
>Vaske Computer Solutions
>
>
>
>

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