Personally I never had the opportunity to meet Winston.  I don't believe he
'killed' MPE.  It was the 'upper crust' at HP who decided to 'glean' off the
revenue from the 3000 boxes and apply it to the latest 'Bill Gates' and
others, buzz words.  Like 'unix', 'nt', 'windows 2xxx', etc. etc.
By transferring funding away from R&D for MPE/ix on the IA-64 chip Winston
had no choice, he was between a rock and a hard spot.

I hope that after the Carly catastrophe is over, and she's GONE!!!, those
left will re-invent the 'HP WAY' and stop nickel and dimeing themselves out
of business.

The 3000 had a bright future but when the money is taken away from you, CSY,
you can't develop it's O/S.  It takes dollars and quality people to write
good code when it comes to the O/S side of things.  After all we know how
well all the Windows O/S's work!

just my 0.02 worth.

now back to other things.

L.B.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Baier [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 12:58 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] HP Colorado job


I can't apply anymore but then again, I love my job and wouldn't want to
work for HP anymore. Loved it in the 80's
Some at CSY didn't like a comment I made about Winston.
But sorry to inform Guy Paul, that he was the only person that didn't like
my comment.

From: "PAUL,GUY (HP-Boise,ex1)" <[log in to unmask]>
To:   "'Michael Baier'" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: RE: Old news but some crusty decisions made awhile back
Date:    Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:28:57 -0500


Me thinks a lot of people on the list won't like your comment.
Winston is a revered person to most.

Hope you have your flame suit on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Baier [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 15:09
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Old news but some crusty decisions made awhile back


On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:34:48 -0800, Stan Sieler <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

>Re:
>> I think Joseph's post reveals the primary reason for all of the
anger
>> expressed on this list over the EOL of the HP e3000.  The fact we
all know
>...
>> Mr. Rich Sevcik, General Manager of Hewlett-Packard's Systems and
Servers
>...
>> Unfortunately, Hewlett-Packard's chief baker, Mr. Wim Roelandts,
publicly
>
>We should let those two know about our displeasure.
>
>Wait...I forgot...neither works for HP any more :)


Maybe it is time for Winston to join these gentlemen.
We should collect money and give him a t-shirt saying "I KILLED MPE".

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