[log in to unmask] wrote: "Just get the HP9000"
[log in to unmask] must sell them.
Sure, HP is trying to make it attractive to move 3K to 9K, but I don't think that is the sound move for the long run.
Let's see how long before HP-UX is obhsolete.
BTW - insider news flash - a ceritain CIO of a certain HMO was on the HP Board last year, came back from a board meeting and told his people "we are getting off ALL HP servers......" Now, HP9000s that had replaced AIX have all been converted back to.... AIX. wonder what he learned in the boardroom?
-dtd
[log in to unmask] on 12/21/2001 10:02:00 AM
To: [log in to unmask]@Internet
cc: (bcc: David T Darnell/CO/KAIPERM)
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] The Real Story About HP's Announcement...
No one wanted those new fangled electric refrigerators either. They were
happy with their ice boxes, and didn't even think about Bob/Dave/Joe the
iceman walking in the house, ever so often, to add another block of ice. It
took a marketing campaign to change peoples perceptions. Would you go back
to the ice box your grandparents had? Just get the HP 9000.
Guy Avenell
www.hptraderonline.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Baier" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] The Real Story About HP's Announcement...
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:52:27 -0800, John Pollard <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jonathan M. Backus [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:04 AM
> >To: 'John Pollard'; [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] The Real Story About HP's Announcement...
> >
> >
> > I personally believe part of the marketing failure came from HP's
> decision
> >to only market HP3000 computers, and advancements, to the installed base.
> >If you have a closed audience of, say 60,000 customers (just a number out
> >of
> >the air), and you only target them with your limited marketing budget
> >(advertising in HP centric publications, etc.), then you are going to
loose
> >ground. No matter how happy and loyal your customs are there will be
some
> >that fall away for a variety of reason (go out of business, merge,
acquire
> >a package only available on another platform, etc.) and if you do nothing
> >to bring new customers to the table, your install base WILL shrink.
> >
> >Nuts, I left out point 3.
> >
> >3.) Your implicit conclusion (shared by quite a few others), that the
> >HP3000 would alive and thriving today if HP had "done its job" marketing,
> >is an unproven, and I believe, shakey hypothesis - as well as being
> >meaningless now that the deed has (not) been done. I believe that we
> >should now stop beating this dead horse.
>
>
> You might be right on that.
> But what makes so angry is that CSY blames the "customers" or
> "non-customers" while a lot of people think that CSY didn't do their job
in
> marketing, promoting and selling the 3000.
> How come the AS400 is such a big success when the 3000 could have done the
> same? I saw many commercials about the AS400 and none about the 3000.
> In almost 30 years, did you ever see a TV-commercial about the 3000?
> How many ads did you count in the computerworld?
> I thought and hoped it would get better when they put the "e" in the name
> and sold some to internet-companies, but still no ad, no commercial,
> nothing. AS400 daily and everywhere.
>
> And then George writes that nobody wants the 3000.
> Of course not!! Nobody but a few knew it was out there.
>
> Also I am getting sick and tired of being "lied to" and being told "what
is
> best for me" by some "big shots" who knows it all.
> Wait till the automobil, audio or food industry try that.
>
> If HP wants to be known as the cheap printer, pc and digital camera
company,
> that is fine with me. I can take my business somewhere else.
> Lot of business men and women I deal with, know HP only as a cheap plastic
> printer company anyway and don't believe that anything else comes out of
> that company.
> If that's the new HP-Way or Carly-Way so be it.
> It used to be a pleasure making business with you but no more.
>
> Now I go fly-fishing and hopefully my anger and frustration will pass.
>
> Happy Holidays around the world
>
> H. Michael Baier
>
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