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Guy Avenell <[log in to unmask]>
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Guy Avenell <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:26:58 -0800
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A person from Boeing would say that blue is a noun, because that is pilots
"Off we go" to.
However, is the blue (noun) over yonder(adjective), or is it blue
(adjective) yonder (noun)?

Guy (ask www.dictionary.com) Avenell
www.hptraderonline.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harrington, Don" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: English


> No, 'blue' is a noun.
>
> Don Harrington
> Sr. Systems Analyst
> Facilities Applications Support
> Shared Services Group
> The Boeing Company
> P.O. Box 3707 M/C 6C-AK
> Seattle, WA  98124-2207
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>
> The opinions expressed in this e-mail reflect those of the sender.  They
do
> not necessarily reflect the opinions of The Boeing Company unless
> specifically stated otherwise.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Toback [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 11:53 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: English
>
>
> Greg Stigers writes:
>
> >[N]ote that function-shifted words such as "chemistry"
> >can only modify a very small number of nouns (class, test, teacher,
> >professor, lab), unlike true modifiers, such as "blue".
>
> I'm sorry, but "blue" is a verb.
>
> >Now, if you want a truly annoying language behavior, look at slang and
> >jargon, a form of language that essentially marks those who know it as
> >insiders, and excludes everyone else. This madness has afflicted IT for
too
> >long.
>
> Unfortunately, there's a trade-off between greater precision and reduced
> vocabulary size. What irritates *me* is the use of jargon specifically
> for the purpose of obscuring the fact that the speaker or writer hasn't
> the faintest idea what s/he's talking about. Health care quackery is a
> particularly fertile field for this noxious practice, but the salespeople
> at the corner computer store frequently run a close second.
>
> -- Bruce
>
>
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