Just to add to Michael's comments:
I feel that there are four mainstream ways to do web based application
development:
1) Sun Java approach with Java Server Pages and Java Servlets using the
JDBC interface (steep learning curve)
2) Microsoft approach with ASP.NET - the new latest greatest approach by
Microsoft and replaces their current approach (but it's Windows only)
3) OpenSource: PHP and I hear Zoap is coming on strong (cost is right)
4) Packages: ColdFusion, Speedware Autobaun, Cognos Powerhouse/Web, etc.
ColdFusion is certainly a good package and probably the most complete
overall web development environment today. But all four approaches will
work depending on individual needs and Speedware and Powerhouse are good
choices if your shop already has those packages.
Apache is a mainstream web server and hard to beat unless you have large
scaling needs or J2EE requirements. If so, it's time to look at
Sun/Netscape IPlanet, Bea Web, or IBM Websphere.
As to MySQL, the general belief by head to head evaluators is that
PostgreSQL is the preferred open source data base but MySQL has a loyal
following.
I find that Red Hat Linux 7.x is a very stable and robust development
and database or web/application server environment. It's certainly
worth a look. With IBM and HP throwing their weight behind Linux, it's
a mainstream OS now and I have seen several sucessful Linux data base
and web application server implementations.
Terry O'Brien
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael L Gueterman [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:52 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Web development platforms
Jim,
We mainly use Cold Fusion on a Windows NT/2000 server. PHP
is very similar in concept, but the language is closer to what
you use with ASP than CF. The beauty of CF is that it is very
easy to learn and scales very well. Another benefit is that
it runs under several OS flavors and can talk to anything that
has an ODBC driver as well as a few db's via a native interface.
Several of our customers have gone this route with new applications
knowing that when they migrate their back-end system off the 3000,
the majority of the web application will not need to be altered
(just the I/O routines for the new database). This is a good
strategy especially now as many businesses can't stop the implementation
of a needed new application while they go through the migration
process.
Getting some experience with PHP/MySQL is probably a good idea.
The entry price is right ($0.00 is always nice :), and PHP is
maturing into a good language. Although MySQL has come a long way,
it still has a long way to go before I would use it in a real business
setting.
Good Luck,
Michael L Gueterman
Easy Does It Technologies LLC
http://www.editcorp.com
voice: 888.858.EDIT or 573.368.5478
fax: 573.368.5479
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-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
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Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:27 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [HP3000-L] OT: Web development platforms
Dear fellow listers,
What would you consider to be the best combination of
platform/server/development tools for
business web development?
I have some limited development experience with both Cold Fusion and ASP
using Access via
plain old ODBC, on NT.
It's been suggested to me that Apache/PHP/MySQL on Linux is the hot
ticket
for today, and the
best way to go.
Any feedback?
Thanks.
Jim
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