And probably closure of same: http://investor.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-7978299-0.html? tag=ltnc (watch the wrap) Also try http://www.mind-set.com and hover, then click on Carly's picture. * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *