that's the truth.  I can almost guarantee they will announce the 5 year 
plan for HP-UX in the next 3 to 5 years.

On Tuesday, November 27, 2001, at 02:21 PM, Larry Barnes wrote:

> What you say is true. But what really "muddied the water" was when HP 
> got
> caught up in the 'UNIX' business scam.  I do believe it won't be many 
> years
> hence when HP will discontinue the 9000 box because it's "not in their 
> best
> interest".
>
> I think HP is allowing the 'business exec buzz words' to define what 
> their
> 'best interest are'.  It seems to me that HP has lost it true identity 
> and
> as fallen victim to the opinions of these con$ulting group$.
>
> I was always taught, 'If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for
> anything'.  I think that statement has merit here.
>
> IMO;
> The 9000 WILL meet the same demise as the 3000, and I don't think it 
> will
> take 30 years to complete it.
>
>
> Larry "Remember you heard it here first"  Barnes
> (the opinions expressed are of my own creation.)
> (and I've been known to change them from time to time!)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Scott [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 1:43 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [HP3000-L] I don't think you get it.
>
>
> In spite of the years of experience evidenced by many posts to this 
> list,
> there seems to be a great lack of common sense. All the talk about Open
> MPE  and Image and MPE emulators etc., etc., exhibit either extreme 
> naiveté
> or a colossal pipe dream.
>
> HP has announced the end of the 3000, but not the 9000. Since there is 
> so
> little hardware difference between the two, what HP is saying is "We
> don't want MPE or Image around anymore. We don't think it is in 
> ANYBODY's
> (anybody that HP cares about anyway) best interest for MPE to
> continue on."  If this assessment were incorrect and HP just didn'w 
> want to
> foot the bill for MPE development and support, HP would have
> announced aggressive plans to release all MPE to some open source plan 
> and
> would continue to manufacture hardware (in the form of the 9000)
> that MPE could run on.
>
> HP has announced the end of the OS. They have their reasons, which make
> dollars and sense to them. An open MPE would muddy their water and
> compete with the great plan their actions suggest they are following.
>
> After working on the 3000 for more than twenty years, it pains me as 
> much as
> anyone to face this. Recognize HP's lip service for what it is, but
> don't hold your breath waiting for OpenMPE. I just don't think it will 
> ever
> happen.
>
> Matt Scott
>
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