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In a message dated 11/20/01 5:12:36 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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 Several factors should be considered :

 - Are all the runs manipulating the same data ? The same amount of data ?
 The same data structures ?
{~~~~~
{ The same data base structure, the same software.
{ The copies of the data on the 960 and N220 are a little older and a little
smaller.
{~~~~~
 - How many CPUs does your 969 have ?
{~~~~~
{ The 969 has two CPUs and MRP is running simultaneously in two separate
{ accounts, each with its own data.  The comparisons are for the same
{ account on each machine.
{~~~~~
- What are your runs exactly doing ? Read-only ? Read/update ? Adds ?
{~~~~~
{ All the stuff that MRP does.  Lots of reading and updating, and a fair
amount
{ of adding (the week's requisitions, all sorts of data sets and flat files
that get
{ filled with data for reporting, etc.
{~~~~~
 - How much free space on each box ?
 - How fragmented is your disk space on all systems ?
 - How fragmented are your data files (i.e. how many extents, and how spread
 are the extents ?)
{~~~~~
{ The N220 is brand new, and MRP is just about the first thing tried after
the
{ data was loaded from backup tapes.  So there wasn't much chance for
{ fragmentation.  I'd have to go back and check the amount of free space,
{ but with 114 Gb of disc on the N220 I'm sure there is a LOT of space there.
{~~~~~
 - How are data/index files implemented ? Separate spindles ?
{~~~~~
{ Whichever spindles RESTORE put them on.
{~~~~~
 - What about storage ? HP-IB ? HP-FL ? SCSI/SE ? F/W ? HVD ? LVD ?
{~~~~~
{ No more HP-IB or HP-FL, even on the 960, which I think is all F/W
{ I'd have to check on the disc drives.
{~~~~~

 Here are a few performance indices :

 - 960 = 1.9
 - N400-220 = 9.0
 - 969/100 (one-way) = 5.2
 - 969/420 (four-way) = 21.5

 In other words, we may or may not have comparable propositions. I would tend
 to think that 7.0 has a performance hit, but, from the technical data I've
 had, i would expect a very moderate perf hit.
{~~~~~
{ Of course they are not comparable, but they are what we have.
{ I've heard that performance hits with 6.5 and 7.0 might be around 20%
{~~~~~

 In other words, a careful look should be taken at these runs. There may be
 some misunderstanding or lack of knowledge of something (Hardware config ?
 Disk space management ?). Or there may be a real perf hit (I'm not ruling it
 out flatly), but it has to be proved. There are lots of tools to assist you
 : HP's Glance Plus and Glane Plus Pak, SPT (for individual processes - but
 that may be moot since I assume the same code is used on all three boxes),
 PerfView (uses Scope as a collection tool), and third party tools like SOS
 and the complete Lund stuff (not an endorsement, just a mention).

 HTH

 Christian "loves to do perf stuff" Lheureux

  >>
Yes, we will be looking at this more carefully.  We have Glance and Lund's
SOS.
I posted this because it was such a shock.

Cecile Chi

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