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Jim Chance <[log in to unmask]>
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Jim Chance <[log in to unmask]>
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If you'll admin the WSJ ad, I'm good for $50.00 bucks. I am
as mad about this possibility as you are.

Seems the threads are indicating several others are just as
emotional. I hope these threads make the Interex mag. and I
hope we can all channel our engergies towards an HP rep.
for them to reconsider.

--- Jim Phillips <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> "Wirt Atmar" <[log in to unmask]> reports the death
> sentence:
>
> > The rumor is true, as well as the "confirmation" this
> morning by whoever
> that
> > was that heard it from someone inside HP. Everyone
> seemed to shut him down
> > because they don't know who he is. That's why I'm
> letting you know. If you
> > were to say you heard it from inside HP, people will
> believe.
> >
> > 10/31/2003 - End of sales
> > 12/31/2006 - End of support.
>
> But then gives a ray of hope:
>
> > If the MPE cause is taken over by an organization
> external to HP, neither
> of
> > those conditions would remain barriers. Hardware prices
> could drop to 20%
> of
> > their current levels, at absolutely no cost in
> increased unreliability,
> and
> > MPE could be opened up to run on a wide variety of
> hardware platforms.
> >
> > I don't believe this is necessarily the end. In fact,
> it may be just the
> > opposite. In some ways, this may be the best thing that
> could happen to
> MPE.
> > While HP, beginning next Wednesday, will undoubtedly
> promote all sorts of
> > propositions to "migrate" you to other HP-supported
> platforms, away from
> MPE,
> > for most MPE users, there really is no such thing as a
> practical migration
> > process. It will simply be a complete restart. The best
> thing that could
> > happen for all of us would be to migrate MPE somewhere
> else, in a
> completely
> > open fashion, so that you could buy your hardware from
> Dell or IBM or
> whoever
> > you cared to purchase it from, at commodity prices, and
> have you run your
> > business uninterrupted without having to engage in an
> extremely expensive
> and
> > disruptive "migration" process.
> >
> > There may actually be a brighter future for MPE in the
> coming days than if
> HP
> > had continued to support the operating system and
> returned the deep sense
> of
> > faith and loyalty that the customers have given HP.
>
> Well, HP has finally gone and done it now, haven't they?
> If they think the
> Boston Tea Party was a rude awakening, they ain't seen
> nothing yet.
>
> I don't about the rest of you, but I will do my best to
> see that HP doesn't
> get anymore of my (okay, my company's) money.  I mean no
> more HP inkjet or
> laser printers (which means no more inkjet or toner
> cartridges), I'll never
> buy another NetServer (we have three now), no HP PC's, no
> more HP nothin'.
>
> There should be a special hell for managers like the ones
> who have ruined
> HP.
>
> As for MPE on other platforms, I say go for it.  Maybe we
> should start a
> funding project (like the WSJ ad) to open up a non-profit
> organization to
> oversee the port/reverse engineering of MPE?
>
> LONG LIVE MPE!
>
> Jim Phillips                            Therm-O-Link,
> Inc.
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