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"Otterbein, Gerald L." <[log in to unmask]>
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But are we out to kill the passengers, or disable the would be hijacker?

Gerald Otterbein

-----Original Message-----
From: Shahan, Ray [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 10:56 AM
To: 'Otterbein, Gerald L.'; [log in to unmask]
Subject: RE: OT: United Flight 564


So too, does slamming the plane into buildings.  The idea here is to keep
the plane from becoming a weapon.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Otterbein, Gerald L. [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:50 AM
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      Re: OT:  United Flight 564
>
>  Such abrupt and volent maneuvers could overstress the aircraft and have
> catastrophic results.
>
> Gerald Otterbein
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Heter, Alan [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 10:38 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: OT: United Flight 564
>
>
>  Mark Bixby wrote:
> Once hijackers have arisen to make their demands, the pilot would induce
> sufficient negative Gs to cause the hijackers (who are standing in the
> aisle
> and not secured by seat belts anymore) to become weightless and bounce off
> the
> cabin ceiling.  You then quickly induce positive Gs to slam them down to
> the
> floor, thus temporarily disabling them (or breaking some bones).
>
> I am not a pilot, so I have no idea how sane this is, particularly in a
> large
> jet.  You would also no doubt be slamming around passengers who aren't
> wearing
> their seatbelts, and the hijackers will probably be pretty pissed once
> they
> get
> back on their feet.
>
> I know this thread should die, but here is some interesting reading on the
> subject.
> http://www.avweb.com/articles/vcomet/
>
> Alan Heter
> Senior Programmer Analyst - Information Systems
> Alliant Foodservice - Minneapolis
> 2864 Eagandale Boulevard
> Eagan, MN 55121
> (651) 683-4206
> (651) 683-4438 fax
> alanheteratalliantfsdotcom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Bixby [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 7:12 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: United Flight 564
>
> There was an ad from some individual Cessna pilot in today's L.A. Times
> newspaper advocating the use of a defensive "FLOOP" manuever to
> temporarily
> disorient any hijackers.
>
> Once hijackers have arisen to make their demands, the pilot would induce
> sufficient negative Gs to cause the hijackers (who are standing in the
> aisle
> and not secured by seat belts anymore) to become weightless and bounce off
> the
> cabin ceiling.  You then quickly induce positive Gs to slam them down to
> the
> floor, thus temporarily disabling them (or breaking some bones).
>
> I am not a pilot, so I have no idea how sane this is, particularly in a
> large
> jet.  You would also no doubt be slamming around passengers who aren't
> wearing
> their seatbelts, and the hijackers will probably be pretty pissed once
> they
> get
> back on their feet.
> --
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