OK, now I'm confused..... Everything you said makes perfect sense except
that when I look at the file in hex mode I don't see any CR's or LF's.
Shouldn't I be able to see those in a hex "dump"
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Tony Newton
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tracy Pierce [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 2:09 PM
> To: 'Newton, Tony'; [log in to unmask]
> Subject: RE: Searching for the whole CR/LF story
>
>
> I believe the reason you see what you see is that when in
> DisplayFunctions
> mode, a CR causes a linefeed, while an LF does not. So
> DisplayFunctions
> isn't "pure". (it won't show you NUlls, either, one great
> reason for keeping
> an HP2645A around, which has "monitor mode").
>
> Tracy Pierce
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Newton, Tony [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:32 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Searching for the whole CR/LF story
> >
> >
> > Actually we are just printing it through a
> > Reflection/Minisoft terminal
> > emulator. So, with "Display Functions" turned on then I guess
> > we are seeing
> > whatever is actually in the file but the emulator then
> > chooses the format on
> > how to display it?
> >
> > The root cause of this question stems from a contractor who
> > is FTP'ing files
> > down to his PC for editing and then FTP'ing them back to the
> > e3000. He says
> > that upon upload he is losing the last LF in the file. He is
> > using build
> > parms when FTP'ing them back however I'm not exactly sure
> > what he's using as
> > build parms since he's at lunch. So, upon investigating it
> > further I ran
> > into this question(Which was just more for my personal
> > knowledge than for a
> > root cause of the above problem).
> >
> > ___
> > Tony Newton
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gavin Scott [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:14 PM
> > > To: Newton, Tony; [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] Searching for the whole CR/LF story
> > >
> > >
> > > Tony writes:
> > > > I have a file that has 2 LF's and 1CR at the end of each line,
> > > > however when I look at it with "Display Functions" turned on
> > > > in Reflection there are no additional lines in between each
> > > > line of data.
> > >
> > > > FILENAME CODE ------------LOGICAL RECORD-----------
> > ----SPACE----
> > > > SIZE TYP EOF LIMIT R/B
> > SECTORS #X MX
> > > > DMEMBR03 8960B VA 23216 50000 1
> > 31936 19 32
> > >
> > > What are you using to view the file? If it's a "Posix"
> > program that's
> > > expecting to see byte stream files, be aware that your file
> > is an MPE
> > > variable length file and if the program asks for byte stream
> > > access (any
> > > standard shell program or anything else linked with the
> > > "Posix" version of
> > > the C library) then it's going to be hooked up to the
> > > bytestream emulator
> > > which is going to make you think that there's an extra LF
> > > character in the
> > > file located between each MPE record.
> > >
> > > Doing a binary tobyte on the file might eliminate your
> > > "extra" LFs if that's
> > > what you want to do.
> > >
> > > Lots of programs try to be clever in their handling of LS vs.
> > > CRLF vs. CR
> > > line separators and in handling redundant separators, so you
> > > can't always be
> > > sure that what you get is what you see.
> > >
> > > G.
> > >
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