Rich,

I'll set up a mailing list and web site and let you know the specifics.

In the mean time, how about expounding on your ideas for the architecture?

I had considered starting with a set of intrinsics that would function
exactly like Image calls but add in the layers for the functionalities i.e.
type validity. Plus extra datasets (Image or not) for the metadata.  There
would be an extra set of error messages and DBINFO modes.

We should get dialed in on the project scope pretty early on.

What do you want to call it, at least for the time being?

-Dave

> -----Original Message-----
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> To: Dave Darnell; [log in to unmask]
> Subject: RE: Expensive RDBM Systems (Oracle)
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> Dave,
>   Great idea. I seem to recall the Image Enchilada project was spawned
> trying to allow a user implemented way to do these type of 
> things.  The
> problem is picking a standard way to implement these add-ons. 
>  Certainly
> building shells around the calls is doable, but a generic 
> mechanism that
> everyone would be able to enhance/utilize would be preferred.
> 
>   Put me on your list of  collaborators (conspirators?)!
> 
> RAT
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Rich Trapp <mailto:[log in to unmask]>  
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Darnell [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 9:27 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Expensive RDBM Systems (Oracle)
> 
> 
> Seems to me that one could write a "shell" of intrinsics and 
> utilities to
> give everything except the  VARSTRING feature, while still 
> retaining all
> Image functionality, without changing Image.
> 
> Who wants to collaborate?
> 
> -Dave
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Dirickson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 9:18 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Expensive RDBM Systems (Oracle)
> >
> >
> > > What features do see lacking in IMAGE?
> >
> > Integration with the host OS's identification/authentication system
> > Repeatable-Read Isolation level
> > Triggers
> > Currency data type
> > Non-NULL enforcement
> > For that matter, type enforcement in general
> > Date/time data type(s)
> > Stored Procedures
> > DDL to allow script-driven database modifications
> > Distributed transactions
> > Variable-length text ("memo") fields
> > ...
> >
> > None of these are particularly tied to the "relational-ness"
> > or "SQL-ness"
> > of the competition; I expect that Image could provide all of these
> > capabilities. But it doesn't.
> >
>