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Cynthia Fowler <[log in to unmask]>
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You have one vendor forcing you to 6.5 and we have one whose software
absolutely will not work on 6.5 and no intention of making it do so in
the near future. So what happens to us when 6.0 is no longer supported?
Good question still unanswered.

Cynthia Bridges-Fowler
MIS Operations Analyst
IMC Salt, Inc., a division of IMC Global
Overland Park, KS
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>>> Ronald R Horner <[log in to unmask]> 02/23/01 09:32AM >>>
We are on 6.0 pp2 and nothing has gone bump.  A third party vender is
forcing us to
go to 6.5 because they are upgrading there develop system to 6.5.  The
idea being
that once they are upgraded, any upgrades they produce will not work.
Interesting
swing.


Wesley Setree wrote:

>    o  What makes you decide to go up onto a newer release?
> Sometimes new enhancements but usually because of EOL on a previous
release.
>
>    o  Which Powerpatch (first, second, third, ...?) is the
appropriate
>        one to "Push"?  What criteria should HP use to determine
which
>        Powerpatch is the "Push"?
> Hopefully the first patch would be a push to fix all the problems in
the initial
> release. I was on the front lines when we installed 6.5 (which is the
first time
> I ever did that - I usually wait for patch 1 before jumping in) and
although we
> didn't have major issues we did run into a few bugs that were
inconvenient to
> our production process/schedule.
>
>    o  Should we "Push" at all?  Would you prefer simply to receive
the
>        Communicator once we come out with a release, and you can
decide
>        whether you want it?
> We went from 5.5p7 to 6.5 without hardly a mention of 6.0. I had
heard of so
> many problems with 6.0 that by the time it became relatively stable
6.5 was
> already being released. Since each release is being unsupported after
2 new
> releases have been out (5.5 is now unsupported) we needed to load the
latest and
> greatest. I had to travel all over the country upgrading our 18 3k's
and
> management doesn't want to spend that kind of money every 12 - 18
months.
>
>    o  Once you get up onto a particular release, how long do you want
to
>        stay there?
> As long as possible, provided it's stable.
>
>    o  What is your expectation concerning the availability of new
>        functionality or enhancements on your current release?
> I generally try to implement some of the new enhancements right away.
For
> instance, we determined that the BRW's need to be segregated into
their own job
> queue because they hammer the cpu pretty hard.
>
> I also agree with others who have already responded... if you don't
push a
> release then who will be implementing/testing it to find the bugs? We
have a
> development box where we test all new releases prior to
implementation.

--
Ron Horner
HP3000 Systems Administrator
JCPenney Logistics
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(414) 259-2274

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