Tracy noted:

> But the problem continues to exist, I believe, for users of
> an INTERACTIVE debugger such as DEBUG/iX (or, more
> simply, for a programmer using both DISPLAY and
> ACCEPT in her embedded debugging code), which would
> also require redirection of STDIN or STDINX or (??).

The problem definitely continues to exist for TRANDEBUG/iX
when using VPLUS:  If you can't redirect your VPLUS I/O to
another terminal, you are mostly out of luck (confess I have
not tried to run VPLUS *output* to a file;  my guess is results
would be generally unsat...  and of course for VPLUS input..).

Since our site is more and more leaving VPLUS apps behind
as time goes by, the problem has diminished considerably
for us over the last few years....  But I can see where being
able to re-direct to a network logon would be a good and likely
necessary thing for some non-VPLUS debugging too.

IMO the discussion at SIGMPE at SIG3000 settled on what is
clearly the preferred solution:  Stan's suggestion of being able
to "open" an EXISTING VT connection....   Except note that
of course that should be "VT *and* TELNET" connections...
:-)


...  and now;  while the rest of the Base was sent home early
because of about ONE FOOT of new snow (of the "Cascade
concrete" variety):  So that incoming SIGMPE Chair John
Burke does not totally put me to shame with his immediate
extensive minutes & etc. post:  Back to post-SIGIMAGE
meeting work....

Ken Sletten