I do similar techniques with the GrowthPower apps.  They generate an input file
that is read by the requested program.  It also builds the job stream file and
then streams it. The program will purge the input file as the last step, this
keeps these files from consuming disc space.
I've captured the input file, found what changes with each user request and then
manipulate this input file using Streamx, and sometimes Quad.

Burgess Peter wrote:

> Hi Ron
>
> One of the things that you can do to catch a job stream that has been
> generated by MACS/ECOMETRY is catch the temporary file that is built when
> the macs Scheduler program has run. This creates a copy of the stream file
> from the sga account and adds in the one time parameters the user has
> selected. You will need to stream the job from a manager user which has the
> colon access.
>
> We used this to build up a complete library of reports that are archived so
> that at week/month end we can schedule the reports to run without any user
> intervention. You can easily tailor this to add in streamx requests and
> assigns.
>
> Let me know if you require any futher information on this capture.
>
> Regards
>
> Peter Burgess
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bartram, Chris [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 21 December 2000 22:34
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Streamx and MACS
>
> Not reliably. :-(
>
> Unfortunately, MACS jobs are streamed programmatically, by a substantial
> number of programs. These programs are typically invoked from one of (a maze
> of tiny) command files (all alike), with each !RUN line explicitly
> specifying a LIB= parameter and/or XL=(list of XLs).
>
> While VESoft has a program patcher, it's not usually advisable to try
> patching ALL those program files (especially with the regularity of patches
> we get from SG/Ecometry which would negate them), and the prospect of
> modifying all the hundreds of !RUN lines in those command files to add
> VESoft's XL (and redoing it every time you get an update) is also not
> practical.
>
> You might get it all done ONCE, but trying to maintain it would be a
> nightmare.
>
> Also, the programs that stream these jobs don't accommodate prompting (i.e.
> they would need to disable the pseudo-block mode interface temporarily). And
> if you missed a program or command file somewhere, from what I recall, most
> of their code doesn't check for successful execution of the STREAM command
> (or would likely hang as they try blindly to read the job number returned).
>
> Some simple (but they would have to be comprehensive) code changes on
> SG/Ecometry's part could fix those issues... but don't hold your breath.
> It'd be a LOT of work for them at this point.
>
> Chris "been there.. tried that" Bartram
>
>                 -----Original Message-----
>                 From:   Ronald R Horner [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>                 Sent:   Thursday, December 21, 2000 5:24 PM
>                 To:     [log in to unmask]
>                 Subject:        [HP3000-L] Streamx and MACS
>
>                 Can I use VESOFT's STREAMX to submit jobs streams, within
>                 Smith&Gardner's MACS system.  If I can, how do I set this
> up.
>
>                 Later and Thanks
>
>                 --
>                 Ron Horner
>                 HP3000 Systems Administrator
>                 JCPenney Logistics
>                 [log in to unmask]
>                 (414) 259-2274

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