Yeah, but all you have to do is just keep those printing presses rolling
an extra hour longer, and there you go!! ;-)
Kevin
"Bartram, Chris" wrote:
>
> An XP256 with about a terabyte cost us about $1M...
>
> -Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Barnes [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 12:54 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Mirroring, 12H Autoraid....
> or other
>
> I've worked on EMC frames last year and the rumor was a
> fully loaded frame was
> around $1,000,000.00!! Great boxes with BIG price tag.
>
> John Lee wrote:
>
> > I don't doubt you, Kevin. I hear nothing but kudos for
> XP256 and EMC. But
> > of interest and relevance to this community, how much does
> an XP256 cost?
> > My guess is that they are cost-prohibitive to many.
> Again, I go back to
> > the Model 20 array as the preferred solution to those who
> don't have your
> > budget, and that's undoubtedly why we sell so many of
> them. If money
> > weren't a factor, I'd recommend your solution to everyone.
> >
> > John Lee
> > Vaske Computer Solutions
> >
> > At 08:26 PM 10/10/00 -0600, Kevin Newman wrote:
> > >I for one have lived the horror story and I've never been
> more happy to
> > >spend (the company's) money to get off of the 12Hs. If
> you have a low
> > >amount of I/O then the 12Hs might be for you. In a heavy
> I/O
> > >environment, you wouldn't like to see just how slow your
> system can
> > >perform.
> > >
> > >No urban myth here. We had serious performance problems.
> We are
> > >running at a minimum of 4-5 times faster on the XP256
> disc array and
> > >this is without any changes to memory or any other system
> component.
> > >Yes, you read that right 400% - 500% better!!!
> > >
> > >Kevin
> > >
> > >Steve Belkacem wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Apologies if I misled here. I am basically looking at
> > >> both options Mirroring and 12H.
> > >>
> > >> Mirroring is the system we currently have, and does
> > >> not seem to work correctly.
> > >>
> > >> The 12H raid option is the sytem which we are
> > >> currently looking towards and I need to find out if it
> > >> is a good solution, or if the horror stores if slow
> > >> performace and the ARM utility are an urban myth.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >>
> > >> Steve
> > >> --- Larry Barnes <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >
> > >> Question, why use mirroring on an 12h disc array?
> > >> > When we set up a new
> > >> > system here we had a 12h fully loaded configured in.
> > >> > Within the first 2
> > >> > months we had 2 drives fail. The system slowed down
> > >> > (considerable)
> > >> > while it rebuilt the bad drive but the system never
> > >> > went down.
> > >> >
> > >> > Steve Belkacem wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi people,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 1. We currently use mirroring on out production
> > >> > > machines. The feeling is that it is not a very
> > >> > good
> > >> > > system due to every time a primary disc has failed
> > >> > ,
> > >> > > the switchover to the secondary drive has not
> > >> > happened
> > >> > > and therefore the software is a waste of time.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I am , in a very open minded way, presuming that
> > >> > this
> > >> > > is due to the mirroring was setup incorrectly at
> > >> > the
> > >> > > time . Would this be a correct assuption ?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Would any users of the system please give me their
> > >> > > opinion on this.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 2. 12H Autoraid.
> > >> > > Again I'd like to hear other peoples thoughts on
> > >> > this.
> > >> > > >From being in a position where I was happy to
> > >> > move to
> > >> > > this, I keep hearing horror stories (not direct)
> > >> > which
> > >> > > is unsettling to say the least.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 3. Any other solution for the resilance ?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Many Thanks in Advance
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Steve
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
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> > >> > --
> > >> > Larry Barnes
> > >> > Director of I.T.
> > >> > Mitek Corp.
> > >> > 602-438-4545 x1366
> > >> > Phoenix, AZ 85040
> > >> >
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>
> --
> Larry Barnes
> Director of I.T.
> Mitek Corp.
> 602-438-4545 x1366
> Phoenix, AZ 85040
>
> Check Us Out !
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