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"F. Alfredo Rego" <[log in to unmask]>
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F. Alfredo Rego
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Jeff Kell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Just a little reality check to share (and get off my chest)...

<snip standard Unix horror story> (Sorry, could not resist putting
"standard" there, somewhere :-)


>I want my MPE :-(

An outstanding system, to be sure.  Some people, though, would claim
that MPE has been "polluted" by UX stuff.  Even so, it appears not
to be too badly damaged (yet).
As Donna Garverick <[log in to unmask]> wrote,

gee <sigh>  makes my fiasco of last week not look quite so bad....  get some
sleep, jeff.         - d



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Richard Gambrell <[log in to unmask]> expands the limits of
Jeff's humble request:

>  I want my MPE :-(

Ditto - With Image, NOT Oracle!  SQL I do like, but Oracle has far
too many complications and complexities.



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What are the reasons for the folks at UTC *NOT* to give your MPE
(and Richard's IMAGE) to you instead of HPUX and Oracle?

Can you invite the recalcitrant souls to have "fun with HPUX and
Oracle" with you the next time you go through this exercise?

Can you show them this clipping, which was mentioned on HP3000-L
a few days ago?



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USA Today carried an article on August 1 (page 3A, U.S.A. edition),
"Investigators look at Concorde tire incidents" (1979 flight bears
similarities to last week's crash).

Among the passengers was Bill Lightfoot, an aircraft salesman who
was taking the flight on June 14, 1979, to the Paris Airshow.
The article includes these paragraphs, which echo Cortlandt's
ideas:

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While on the 1979 flight, Lightfoot saw a metallic object fly in
front of his window. He craned his head enough to be able to see
the surface of the wing out of the small window at his seat.

He immediately attempted to notify flight attendants but was
told that there was no problem. His repeated efforts to warn the
crew fell on deaf ears as the minutes ticked by and the speed
increased toward Mach 1. "It was like a bad dream," he recalls.

Finally, after [Lightfoot's] threatening to bash in the cockpit door,
the copilot came to the rear of the jet. Lightfoot says he shoved
the doubting pilot toward his window. "He says, 'Mon dieu.' The guy
just turned ashen. ... He turned around and he zipped up the aisle.
The instant he got to the cockpit, you could feel them jerk the
throttles back."

The damaged jet landed at Dulles about 20 minutes after takeoff.
No one was injured.
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The article is at http://www.usatoday.com/news/ndsmon11.htm

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"Cortlandt Wilson" <[log in to unmask]> complemented:

A interesting story in its own right.   A part of the article
you didn't quote reads:
    "There was a bunch of hydraulic hoses that was just
sticking out of the wing," says Bill Lightfoot, an aircraft
salesman who was taking the flight on June 14, 1979, to the
Paris Airshow. "There was a ton of fluid coming out. It turns
out it was fuel. It was a plume of fuel just spewing out. It
was an absolute fluke that it didn't light up."


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What can be done to prevent your wasting your life away on HPUX stuff?

Hey, there is a lot of deep-sea diving to be done and life is short...

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|            r  |  Alfredo                     [log in to unmask]
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|    d          |  Adager Corporation
|  A            |  Sun Valley, Idaho 83353-3000            U.S.A.
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