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Gary Sielaff <[log in to unmask]>
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Gary Sielaff <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:14:05 -0700
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Here Here,
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: Karman, Al <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] e-commerce in hype-rdrive


> In deference to our OT-challenged members, I propose limiting forays out
of
> HPe-land to topics not quite so offensive....gun control, perhaps?
>
> BTW, this list will Hammer To Death all manner of subject material, and I
> don't think OT should be limited to any school of thought.
>
>
> Al Karman
> IT Consultant
> US Freightways
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> 773.824.2284
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wyell Grunwald [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 2:11 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] e-commerce in hype-rdrive
>
>
> Hey all,
>
> I don't mind getting occasionally off-topic, but this Amazon book thing
has
> gone way off the deep end, especially to those of us who find these series
> particularly offensive !
>
> Wyell Grunwald
> Senior Technical Analyst
> Geisinger Health System
> 100 North Academy Avenue
> Suite 30-33
> Danville, Pennsylvania  17822-3033
>
> Phone:  570-271-7342
> Fax:  570-271-5162
> Ext:  7342
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>
> >>> Doug Becker <[log in to unmask]> Monday, July 10, 2000 2:31:03 PM
> >>>
> And I want to assure you all that Beverley Becker, assistant director for
> the American Library Association's Office of Intellectual Freedom
> (http://www.education-world.com/a_admin/admin157.shtml) is NOT a
> relative--at least as far as I know.
>
> "Opponents of the Harry Potter series believe that anything that mentions
a
> witch or a magic spell is equated with evil, West said."
>
> Soon, anything negative about management or large corporations will be
> banned too, we assume.
>
> As I understand it, some TEXTBOOKS should be banned because of gross,
> blatant misinformation (history, science, etc).
>
> >>> Wirt Atmar <[log in to unmask]> 07/10 11:14 AM >>>
> Jim writes:
>
> > You just didn't try hard enough, Bruce.  The other night on Fox News I
saw
> >  some guy who was totally against the Harry Potter books.  Something
about
> >  wizards and witchcraft and wicca-type stuff.  Actually, I think what he
> was
> >  against was some public school teacher reading these books to his kid
in
> >  school.  Because witchcraft is a recognized religion, he thought this
was
> >  just as bad as a public school teacher reading the Bible to his kid in
> >  school.
>
> Actually, the Harry Potter books were put on the "challenged" list of the
> American Library Association almost from the first. In some school
> districts,
> the books have now been taken off of the shelves and are distributed to
> students only when permission slips have been signed by the parents, and
in
> other school districts, particularly in Kansas and Pennsylvania, the books
> have been banned outrightly.
>
> For more information, see:
>
>      http://www.education-world.com/a_admin/admin157.shtml
>
> The list of most commonly challenged books appears at the ALA's website:
>
>      http://www.ala.org/alaorg/oif/top100bannedbooks.html
>
> While I agree that some (perhaps much) of the material on the list is
> completely unsuitable for young children and shouldn't appear in school
> libraries, about a third of the top 100 is either innocuous or is
literature
> that should be read. The Harry Potter series is 48th most commonly banned
> book (or at least has been attempted to be banned).
>
> Worse, many of my favorite books rank even higher on this list.
>
> Wirt Atmar

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