Agreed.  When I try to do mass restores of the system I'm sure to miss some
parameter such as olddate.  I have found that standard streams produce
standard results.

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 -----Original Message-----
From:   Joseph Dolliver [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent:   Tuesday, May 09, 2000 2:56 PM
To:     [log in to unmask]
Subject:        Re: sysstart question

All or most functions in the use of stores / restores should be done in
batch. This would provide an audit
of all operations functions. True I am not a firm believer in having any
such function being performed at the "console"
It's not that you cannot, it's just sound practice not to perform these
types of functions when the console is busy sending
other messages, and you may miss something critical, like a file not stored
or files missing etc...



My thoughts only.
joe :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: Johnson, Tracy <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: sysstart question


> Sounds that it has been made "de-useful" to me.  Only
> because as I remember it, the original "intent" of the
> console WAS to run STORES and RESTOREs as OPERATOR.SYS.
>
> The former message indicates that priviledged commands must
> now be run from another session, either off the LAN or another
> terminal in the computer room.  The console in effect, is
> no longer the console.  It also seems to imply there are some
> rather low-calibre personnel running around the same area as the
> console AND that it needs extra protection apart from having a
> locked computer room.
>
> But then, if you're running in a high-security environment, then
> all bets on my above opinion are off.  For that reason I'd
> reverse it and endorse the earlier message.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joseph Dolliver [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > [snip]
> > We use on that excludes capabilities like SM,OP,PM. This prevents the
> > console to be used interactively for running stores,restores
> > and any other  interactive SM function. Basicly setting up a DUMB device
> > that just scrolls  messages. The console "when needed for anything"
> > should be used by experienced users only. It's a very useful setup.
>