Good day,

Some maybe would argue that that is what (e)3000 are good at: "gathering
dust", but I think we should undust 'm, make 'm freely available. Just look
at the enormously booming LINUX market, give it for free, and a lot of
people got it and eventualy started using it.
This also could work for (e)3000's, but (ofcourse) in a different way, by
giving the world the possibility to try these machines out, to see whether
it's s'thing worth their while. 'Cause that's the problem maybe with
(e)3000's, WHO actually knows where they are used. Until 3/4 of a year ago,
I NEVER even heard of MPE, although it's used worldwide (in a (much) smaller
quantity than UNIX ofcourse, but still...) as webservers for instance.
Let the world see what it can do, proof that it isn't an outdated operating
system (which, by-the-way, even a lot of HP people themselves never even
heard off or do not really know what it is, how can one expect the world to
know?). Show people the stability of the system (unless, ofcourse, you got a
defective I/O card, damm'd... Working day of 20 hours. Sorry, that's besides
the point...) by letting them try a lot of stuff themselves: configuring
(e)3000's as webservers, installing software/patches (seems a bit troubling
because of the distance and because you normally do a lot of things from
tape (darn')), trying out commandfiles/UDC's, making use of applications to
see whether it's something for own (future) use (MPEX, QEDIT and I can
imagine a lot of other applics. Maybe even softwarecompanies would freely
spare software, so that one can see it working on a (non-production)
machine, where one can do solely testing to so if it fits your expectations
without having the hassle of installing s'thing for only 2 or 3 weeks, and
having to remove it afterwards).

But I'm probably to naive to see s'thing  like this happening (in the near
future). But still I'm convinced that for a lot off applications in the
future, the applics will be free, you'll (only) have to pay for support and
documentation (just like with LINUX).

Greetings to yee all,

bArtoque
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"Simon Palmer" <[log in to unmask]> wrote in message
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> We have several HP 3000s (excuse me, e3000s) laying around "gathering
dust"
> that we may be willing to make available to the 3000 community at large
for
> testing, training, etc.
>
> Does anyone have a feel for what the configuration of this system should
be?
> What type of work would you like to be able to do on this machine?  What
> utilities would you like to see loaded on this machine? Is this a service
> that would be of value to the community?
>
> Please feel free to reply off list to discuss.
>
> Simon Palmer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> Behalf Of bArtoque
> Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 3:58 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: freely available MPE machines???
>
>
> Hi ya'll out there,
>
> Do you now of freely available MPE machines to play around on within the
> community? I'm looking for MPE machines you can have a look around on and
> can try out things on. The more permissions you have, the better.
>
> I'm trying out a couple of things on the freely available machine from
> QCTERM (209.181.113.217), which is a good thing. That way you can see how
> their terminal emulator works (nice & free) AND play around a little bit
> (sorry MANAGER.SYS for stealing the console, hehe...).
>
> Speaking about free. Is there also maybe a nice editor out
> there? EDITOR is hell!!! We had a tryout version of Qedit, but because
there
> wasn't that much documentation with it and only lasted for 13 days, we
> didn't really have time to try out stuff. Or is there good information to
be
> found about Qedit (ofcourse there is, but I dunno where...)?
>
> bArtoque    ;-)
>
> "Yes, there are still people new to the 3K community..."
>
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>
> P.S. Th@nx to all the people who already reacted on my performance
> question...
>