My delete key is also smooth, no trace of delete.
I second this motion, and if it wasn't a motion I'll make
it one and second it.
Gary Sielaff
-----Original Message-----
From: Penney, John <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: Pasting returns (was: It's greek to me)
>Guys:
>
>You're wearing out my delete key with this endless discussion that is about
>as related to the HP3000 list as The Back Street Boys..
>
>Ever think of taking it offline, and saving us some keystrokes?
>
>JP
>
>> ----------
>> From: Ted Ashton[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>> Reply To: Ted Ashton
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 9:38 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Pasting returns (was: It's greek to me)
>>
>> Thus it was written in the epistle of [log in to unmask],
>> > Ted writes:
>> >
>> > > The user is still not free to choose the method which is natural to
>> > long-term
>> > > Windows users (Ctl-Ins, Shift-Ins, etc.) You could, with only a
>> minor
>> > > effort now support those as well and make at least one person a lot
>> > happier.
>> >
>> > Without sounding a bit recalcitrant, this is something we will never
do.
>> > QCTerm is designed to look to the future, not the past. Windows made a
>> hard
>> > left turn a few years ago and adopted the Macintosh key sequences --
and
>> in
>> > the process dropped all of its oddities, the Cntl-Ins, Shift-Ins being
>> prime
>> > among them. No modern Windows product uses these sequences any longer.
>>
>> Every program which I use under Windows, with one obvious exception, does
>> support those.
>>
>> > In QCTerm, everything is made to be as simple as it possibly can be --
>> and as
>> > similar as it can be to the other common Windows-based PC programs. The
>> > Insert key means "insert", the Delete key means "delete", Cntl+Insert
>> means
>> > insert a line, Cntl+Delete means delete a line, continuing the
universal
>> > theme of having the Control key be the primary (and for most people,
the
>> > sole) modifier key.
>>
>> If shift-insert is not already taken, you could support those two with
>> ease.
>> If text is selected, inserting a line makes little sense, so ctl-ins
would
>> copy. Shift-ins would paste and we're both happy.
>>
>> Alternatively, you could say that when "Transmit control characters to
>> host"
>> is on, all the ctl-whatever sequences become alt-whatever. Then I could
>> learn
>> to use alt-c and alt-v and still be able to do what I need to do in an
>> efficient manner.
>>
>> > > When I'm
>> > > in "Transmit Control Characters to Host" mode, Ctl-V and Ctl-C
aren't
>> an
>> > > option, obviously, and so I *have* to use the menu <*yuck*>.
>> >
>> > The menu is not the only choice. You can use the Alt key sequences as
>> well
>> > (Alt+E C for copy, Alt+E P for paste).
>>
>> Try typing those sequences slowly, at, say, 300 baud. If you watch
*very*
>> carefully, you'll see that the menu pops up. I didn't say that I had to
>> use
>> the mouse, I said that I had to use the menu <*still yuck*>. It truly
>> isn't
>> necessary that a low learning curve for non-programmers has to come at
the
>> expense of programmer efficiency.
>>
>> Ted
>> --
>> Ted Ashton ([log in to unmask]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist University
>> ==========================================================
>> Life is an offensive, directed against the repetitious mechanism of the
>> Universe.
>> -- Whitehead, Alfred North
>>
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