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John Burke <[log in to unmask]>
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John Burke <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:07:30 -0800
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I too appreciate Wirt elaborating on his design thinking, but I also have to
disagree with his conclusion about how cut and paste should work. In
examining
how I work, it is clear that in the majority of cases where I do a copy and
paste on a screen I do not want a CR thrown in by the emulator. In those
cases
where I do want a CR, I am quite content to hit the enter key after my
ctrl-v.
This is much more natural than having to hit F1, etc. before pasting and
then
having to do something else afterward to transmit the characters
(HP-ENTER?).

One of the things that has always annoyed me about Reflection is its lack of
support for ctrl-c/ctrl-v; though other than that, its copy/cut and paste
behavior is consistent with other applications. Please do not add yet
another peculiarity to the use of an emulator.

It has been years since I regularly used a terminal for development or
systems
administration. I suspect this is true of most of us. I do not think
therefore
that we should use a terminal as the standard for how copy and paste should
work.

I vote for a consistent cut/copy and paste scheme across all applications.

John Burke
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-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
Behalf Of Wirt Atmar
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 8:00 PM
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Subject: Re: Pasting returns (was: It's greek to me)


Richard writes:

> I appreciate Wirt sharing his design thinking about this.
>
>  My thought is that the major issue is with a word or fragment of a line,
>  where you may be building a complete line.  This is where the return
>  isn't (or may not be) appreciated.
>
>  For a multi-line paste, the added <return> is welcome in the context
>  of transmitting to the host.

I should have added perhaps just a few more lines to my previous posting. If
I had, they would have been:

When in local edit mode in QCTerm, think word processor behavior (paste in
insert mode, no CR's added). When in remote mode, actively interacting with
a
host, think terminal behavior (CR's added).

Use the line modify key (F1) to choose which behavior you want at any moment
in your editing process.

Wirt Atmar

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