>>You'll recall as well the law school shooting in VA last
year. That shooter was stopped by other students who had a
gun. Unfortunately, due to campus policies (and they're apparent abiding
by said policy), they had to go to their cars, get their weapons, return to
the building and engage the shooter. How many people were shot during that
time frame? Who knows, but it could've been drastically reduced had these
courageous students not had to go to their cars.<<
I shudder to think of our schools filled with students carrying guns! Guns
in the hands of immature high school or even college students is a very
frightening concept!! God help us if we come to the day that we see
students regularly carrying guns to school as protection either for
themselves OR others! We are living in an increasingly violent society and
to say that it's a "good thing" for a student to have ready access to a
weapon of any kind is absurd. I agree that the gun is an inanimate object
and can't commit a crime in and of itself, but that doesn't mean that it's
okay for students to carry them to classes OR to school. Let's just imagine
that students are still in need of guidance and not old enough or mature
enough to handle a violent situation where there is massive confusion and
fear and panic everywhere. Not that a mature adult can handle that kind of
a situation! A gun in the hands of anyone except a professionally trained
adult having authority to carry that gun is just more disaster looking to
happen. ˇUn otro dos centavos de mi opinión!
Linda Hobart
Administrative Secretary
University of Tennessee at Chattanooga
Sociology, Anthropology & Geography Dept.
Brock Hall, Room 308
632 McCallie Avenue
Chattanooga, TN 37403
Ph: 423-425-4411
Fax: 423-425-2251
>>>>I don't believe our policies allow for anyone to carry a gun on
campus (w/or w/o a permit). However, in reality, would that keep someone
from carrying one who was bent on doing violence? I think not.
You'll recall as well the law school shooting in VA last
year. That shooter was stopped by other students who had a
gun. Unfortunately, due to campus policies (and they're apparent abiding
by said policy), they had to go to their cars, get their weapons, return to
the building and engage the shooter. How many people were shot during that
time frame? Who knows, but it could've been drastically reduced had these
courageous students not had to go to their cars.
People appropriately trained to carry and use weapons, save
themselves and others each and every day in this country. IMHO, the
problem was the student, not the gun.
At 12:03 PM 10/29/2002 -0500, gmolavi wrote:
>I don't know if all have heard of the tragic events of yesterday in Tucson
at
>the University of Arizona. Three university nursing professors were shot by
a
>student, and two died. The student later killed himself. What is also
tragic
>is that even though the event was briefly mentioned on the television news,
>nothing was mentioned in our newspaper today. Have we become so used to
this
>violence that killing faculty and shootings at schools are just other
"ho-hum"
>activities of our society?? That really scares me. I know I've had students
>"threaten" me over grades before, saying "I always gotten "A"s in high
school-
>why should I get a lower grade in college!"
>My usual response is that I don't "give" grades; students "earn" the grade
>they get. I guess I've been lucky so far.
>Another shocking fact revealed by the story online was that the student who
>did this apparently "often carried a weapon on campus" because he had a
>permit to carry a concealed weapon. I hope that our school policies are not
>the same!!
>Gerry
>
>
>forwarded mail:
> >===== Original Message From "Christina B. Whittaker"
><[log in to unmask]> =====
>The local paper, the Tucson Citizen, has fuirther on-line information
>regarding the tragic events of yesterday.
>
>
> > http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/breaking/10_28_02shots.html
>
>http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/local/10_29_02shooting.html
> >
> >___________________________________
>
>
>Christina B. Whittaker, RN, MN, NPCCC, CDE
>Lecturer
>Faculty of Nursing
>Helen Glass Centre for Nursing
>University of Manitoba
>Winnipeg, Manitoba
>R3T 2N2
>phone: (204) 474-8978
>fax: (204) 474-7682
>e-mail: [log in to unmask]
"We are coming after you. God may have mercy on you, but we won't" -
J. McCain, R. Arizona
"Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war." William Shakespeare,
"Julius Caesar"
"All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do
nothing." Edmund Burke
The pen is mightier than the sword, but the sword guarantees
ownership of the pen.
WOOSHA
Jeffrey P. Rush, DPA; CGS
Assistant Professor of Criminal Justice
School of Social and Community Services
The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga
Dept 3203
615 McCallie Avenue
Chattanooga, TN 37403
423/425-4509
423/425-2228 (Fax)
Linda Hobart
Administrative Secretary
University of Tennessee at Chattanooga
Sociology, Anthropology & Geography Dept.
Brock Hall, Room 308
632 McCallie Avenue
Chattanooga, TN 37403
Ph: 423-425-4411
Fax: 423-425-2251
-----Original Message-----
From: UTC Staff E-Mail List [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
Jeff Rush
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:31 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [UTCSTAFF] FWD: RE: [NRSED] Shooting
I don't believe our policies allow for anyone to carry a gun on
campus (w/or w/o a permit). However, in reality, would that keep someone
from carrying one who was bent on doing violence? I think not.
You'll recall as well the law school shooting in VA last
year. That shooter was stopped by other students who had a
gun. Unfortunately, due to campus policies (and they're apparent abiding
by said policy), they had to go to their cars, get their weapons, return to
the building and engage the shooter. How many people were shot during that
time frame? Who knows, but it could've been drastically reduced had these
courageous students not had to go to their cars.
People appropriately trained to carry and use weapons, save
themselves and others each and every day in this country. IMHO, the
problem was the student, not the gun.
At 12:03 PM 10/29/2002 -0500, gmolavi wrote:
>I don't know if all have heard of the tragic events of yesterday in Tucson
at
>the University of Arizona. Three university nursing professors were shot by
a
>student, and two died. The student later killed himself. What is also
tragic
>is that even though the event was briefly mentioned on the television news,
>nothing was mentioned in our newspaper today. Have we become so used to
this
>violence that killing faculty and shootings at schools are just other
"ho-hum"
>activities of our society?? That really scares me. I know I've had students
>"threaten" me over grades before, saying "I always gotten "A"s in high
school-
>why should I get a lower grade in college!"
>My usual response is that I don't "give" grades; students "earn" the grade
>they get. I guess I've been lucky so far.
>Another shocking fact revealed by the story online was that the student who
>did this apparently "often carried a weapon on campus" because he had a
>permit to carry a concealed weapon. I hope that our school policies are not
>the same!!
>Gerry
>
>
>forwarded mail:
> >===== Original Message From "Christina B. Whittaker"
><[log in to unmask]> =====
>The local paper, the Tucson Citizen, has fuirther on-line information
>regarding the tragic events of yesterday.
>
>
> > http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/breaking/10_28_02shots.html
>
>http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/local/10_29_02shooting.html
> >
> >___________________________________
>
>
>Christina B. Whittaker, RN, MN, NPCCC, CDE
>Lecturer
>Faculty of Nursing
>Helen Glass Centre for Nursing
>University of Manitoba
>Winnipeg, Manitoba
>R3T 2N2
>phone: (204) 474-8978
>fax: (204) 474-7682
>e-mail: [log in to unmask]
"We are coming after you. God may have mercy on you, but we won't" -
J. McCain, R. Arizona
"Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war." William Shakespeare,
"Julius Caesar"
"All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do
nothing." Edmund Burke
The pen is mightier than the sword, but the sword guarantees
ownership of the pen.
WOOSHA
Jeffrey P. Rush, DPA; CGS
Assistant Professor of Criminal Justice
School of Social and Community Services
The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga
Dept 3203
615 McCallie Avenue
Chattanooga, TN 37403
423/425-4509
423/425-2228 (Fax)
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