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All those who engage in this discussion of God and religion should know
that it is the Protestant Christianity that made the United States of
America the greatest country ever existed on this planet.  If you do not
want to recognize or accept that fact, you are not only intellectually
blind but also you need to go back to the slum from where you came from,
instead of negating the faith in God and Jesus Christ that created this
great society. Please do not misunderstand and miss the spirit of
objectivity!  I am not supporting Protestant Faith because I am a
Protestant Christian. I am pointing out the objective truth so that you can
be a better person in the Great USA!!!


At 03:15 PM 8/21/03 -0400, Donna Adams wrote:
>"Don't let anyone claim to be a true American.  Don't let them claim the
>tribute of American patriotism if they ever attempt to remove religion from
>politics."
>George Washington's farewell address
>
>"Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is
>the duty...of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their
>rulers."  (1816)
>First Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, John Jay
>
>"Those who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants."
>William Penn
>
>"I believe no one can read the history of our country without realizing that
>the Good Book and the spirit of the Savior have from the beginning been our
>guiding geniuses...Whether we look to the first Charter of Virginia...or to
>the Charter of New England...or to the Charter of Massachusetts Bay...or to
>the Fundamental Orders of Connecticut...the same objective is
>present...Christian land governed by Christian principles.  I believe the
>entire Bill of Rights came into being because of the knowledge our
>forefathers had of the Bible and their belief in it:  freedom of belief, of
>expression, of assembly, of petition, the dignity of the individual, the
>sanctity of the home, equal justice under law, and the reservation of powers
>to the people...I like to believe we are living today in the spirit of the
>Christian religion.  I like also to believe that as long as we do so, no
>great harm can come to our country."
>liberal Supreme Court Chief Justice, Earl Warren
>
>George Washington wrote:
>
>"Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can
>prevail in exclusion of religious principle."
>and
>"It is impossible to rightly govern...without God & the Bible."
>and
>"You do well to wish to learn our arts and ways of life, and above all the
>religion of Jesus Christ."  (to a group of Indian chiefs.)
>
>John Adams said:
>"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.  It is
>wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
>
>Abraham Lincoln said:
>"Unless the great God who assisted (President Washington), shall be with me
>and aid me, I must fail.  But if the same omniscient mind, and Almighty arm,
>that directed and protected him, shall guide and support me, I shall not
>fail...Let us pray that the God of our fathers may not forsake us now."
>
>Grover Cleveland:
>All must admit that the reception of the teachings of Christ results in the
>purest patriotism, in the most scrupulous fidelity to public trust, and in
>the best type of citizenship."
>
>Woodrow Wilson:
>"America was born a Christian nation.  America was born to exemplify that
>devotion to the elements of righteousness which are derived from the
>revelations of the Holy Scripture."
>
>Governor Bradford in writing of the Pilgrims' landing, describes their first
>act..."Being thus arrived in a good harbor and brought safe to land, they
>fell upon their knees and blessed the God of heaven...."
>
>The New England Charter, signed by King James 1, confirmed the goal of the
>first settlers to be:  "to advance the enlargement of Christian religion, to
>the glory of God Almighty."
>
>The goal of government based on Scripture was affirmed by individual
>counties, such as is found in the Rhode Island Charter of 1683, which
>begins:  "We submit our persons, lives and estates unto our Lord Jesus
>Christ, the King of kings and Lord of lords and to all those perfect and
>most absolute laws of His given us in His Holy Word."
>
>Many, many other statements but
>
>Patrick Henry made a very clear statement:  "It cannot be emphasized too
>often or too strongly that this great nation was founded not be religionists
>but by Christians; not on religions but on the gospel of Jesus Christ....It
>is for this reason that people of other faiths have been afforded asylum,
>prosperity and freedom of worship here."
>
>My personal thoughts on anyone talking about/against Jesus Christ is that
>the world is right on schedule, winding down.  Our redemption is ever closer
>as the world does what it can always be counted on doing apart from God and
>no amount of reason or logic will dissuade anyone.
>
>Men like George Washington knew that countries whose systems of government
>embraced anti-theistic views eventually comes to ruin.  Religious
>convictions did play a role in the development of the U.S.  In 1892 this was
>argued before the Supreme Court of the U.S.  After exhaustive deliberation
>the court said, "Our laws and institutions must necessarily be based upon
>and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind.  (It is) impossible
>that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our
>civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian."
>
>Can you imagine that a nation whose laws and institutions that are based on
>the teachings of Christ would become the leader in education, of the arts
>and invention.  Surely this place would probably become a haven of religious
>liberty for more types and religions of people than ever existed anywhere or
>at any time on earth.  Instead of religious persecution and intolerance,
>such a place would offer hope and opportunity to the huddled masses of the
>earth.
>
>Thomas Jefferson:  "Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God
>is just, and that His justice cannot sleep forever."
>
>President John Quincy Adams:  "The first and almost the only book deserving
>of universal attention is the Bible."
>
>Andrew Jackson:  "Go to the Scriptures...the joyful promises it contains
>will be a balsam to all your troubles."
>
>President Abraham Lincoln's Proclamation for a National Day of Fasting,
>Humiliation, and Prayer, April 30, 1863
>        "We have been preserved, these many years, in peace and prosperity.
>We have grown in numbers, wealth and power, as no other nation has ever
>grown.     But we have forgotten God.  We have forgotten the gracious hand
>which preserved us in peace, and multiplied and enriched and strengthened
>us; and we have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that
>all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our
>own.  Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficient
>to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace, to proud to pray to
>the God that made us!  It behooves us, then, to humble ourselves before the
>offended Power, to confess our national sins, and to pray for clemency and
>forgiveness."
>
>I think Abe said it all.
>

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