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Bill Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
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Denise Moore, yes, she is the one from This American Life.....link is...
http://www.thislife.org/


On 9/15/05 3:09 PM, "Charles Hart" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> If this is a hoax, it has impressive depth...
> 
> Found at  http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/6/211436/8987
> 
> 
> The Moore family is large and long established creole Catholic family in New
> Orleans, the Moores are musicians - Deacon John (Moore) is the most famous one
> of them - professors, nurses... Their houses are now submerged by flooding,
> and most of them have lost everything following Katrina's passage. Lisa Moore,
> editor (Redbone press), has collected the testimony of her 43 year-old cousin,
> Denise Moore, once an education counselor, now a refugee in Baton Rouge. Here
> is her tale of a dive into Hell.
> 
> Update [2005-9-6 23:39 by ch2]: Lisa Moore is indeed the editor of Redbone
> press. The url below is their webpage and they have a message board. Anyone
> interested in getting in touch with Lisa to suggest she share her story with
> the media ?
> http://www.femmenoir.net/RedbonePress.htm
> 
> Also, a google search turned this up:
> 
> Denise Moore - (504) 864-0544 - 7015 Jeannette St, New Orleans, LA 70118
> Lisa Moore - (504) 286-1869 - 5741 Cameron Blvd, New Orleans, LA 70122
> 
> CTH
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> Charles T. Hart M.Ed.
> Walker Teaching Resource Center
> Senior Instructional Developer
> University of Tennessee at Chattanooga
> 615 McCallie Avenue, 401B Hunter Hall
> Chattanooga, TN  37403
> 423-425-4002 (voice)423-425-4025 (fax)
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: UTC Staff E-Mail List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>> Bill Johnson
>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 2:23 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [UTCSTAFF] FW: The Real Story, Please Forward...
>> 
>> This sounds like a retelling of one of the stories from this week's episode
>> of This American Life w/ Ira Glass...heard on our own WUTC at 8pm on Sunday.
>> Though it could be a very similar story.
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/15/05 2:04 PM, "Shalonna Williams" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>>> THIS IS LONG, BUT VERY WORTH READING!
>>> 
>>> I am not sure how true it is, but it is another perspective.  Perhaps
>>> some food for thought.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Lisa Moore
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 10:13 AM
>>> Subject: a survivor's story: Katrina in New Orleans
>>> 
>>> 
>>> i heard from my aunt last night that my cousin Denise
>>> made it out of New Orleans; she's at her brother's in
>>> Baton Rouge. from what she told me:
>>> 
>>> her mother, a licensed practical nurse, was called in
>>> to work on Sunday night at Memorial Hospital
>>> (historically known as Baptist Hospital to those of us
>>> from N.O.). Denise decided to stay with her mother,
>>> her niece and grandniece (who is 2 years old); she
>>> figured they'd be safe at the hospital. they went to
>>> Baptist, and had to wait hours to be assigned a room
>>> to sleep in; after they were finally assigned a room,
>>> two white nurses suddenly arrived after the cut-off
>>> time (time to be assigned a room), and Denise and her
>>> family were booted out; their room was given up to the
>>> new nurses. Denise was furious, and rather than stay
>>> at Baptist, decided to walk home (several blocks away)
>>> to ride out the storm at her mother's apartment. her
>>> mother stayed at the hospital.
>>> 
>>> she described it as the scariest time in her life. 3
>>> of the rooms in the apartment (there are only 4) caved
>>> in. ceilings caved in, walls caved in. she huddled
>>> under a mattress in the hall. she thought she would
>>> die from either the storm or a heart attack. after the
>>> storm passed, she went back to Baptist to seek shelter
>>> (this was Monday). it was also scary at Baptist; the electricity was
>>> out, they were running on generators, there was no air conditioning.
>>> Tuesday the levees broke, and water began rising. they moved patients
>>> upstairs, saw boats pass by on what used to be streets. they were told
>>> that they would be evacuated, that buses were coming. then they were
>>> told they would have to walk to the nearest intersection, Napoleon and
>>> S. Claiborne, to await the buses. they waded out in hip-deep water, only
>>> to stand at the intersection, on the neutral ground (what y'all call the
>>> median) for 3 1/2 hours. the buses came and took them to the Ernest
>>> Morial Convention Center. (yes, the convention center you've all seen on
>>> TV.)
>>> 
>>> Denise said she thought she was in hell. they were
>>> there for 2 days, with no water, no food. no shelter.
>>> Denise, her mother (63 years old), her niece (21 years
>>> old), and 2-year-old grandniece. when they arrived,
>>> there were already thousands of people there. they
>>> were told that buses were coming. police drove by,
>>> windows rolled up, thumbs up signs. national guard
>>> trucks rolled by, completely empty, soldiers with guns
>>> cocked and aimed at them. nobody stopped to drop off
>>> water. a helicopter dropped a load of water, but all
>>> the bottles exploded on impact due to the height of
>>> the helicopter.
>>> 
>>> the first day (Wednesday) 4 people died next to her.
>>> the second day (Thursday) 6 people died next to her.
>>> Denise told me the people around her all thought they
>>> had been sent there to die. again, nobody stopped. the
>>> only buses that came were full; they dropped off more
>>> and more people, but nobody was being picked up and
>>> taken away. they found out that those being dropped
>>> off had been rescued from rooftops and attics; they
>>> got off the buses delirious from lack of water and
>>> food. completely dehydrated. the crowd tried to keep
>>> them all in one area; Denise said the new arrivals had
>>> mostly lost their minds. they had gone crazy.
>>> 
>>> inside the convention center, the place was one huge
>>> bathroom. in order to shit, you had to stand in other
>>> people's shit. the floors were black and slick with
>>> shit. most people stayed outside because the smell was
>>> so bad. but outside wasn't much better: between the
>>> heat, the humidity, the lack of water, the old and
>>> very young dying from dehydration... and there was no
>>> place to lay down, not even room on the sidewalk. they
>>> slept outside Wednesday night, under an overpass.
>>> 
>>> Denise said yes, there were young men with guns there.
>>> but they organized the crowd. they went to Canal
>>> Street and "looted," and brought back food and water
>>> for the old people and the babies, because nobody had
>>> eaten in days. when the police rolled down windows and
>>> yelled out "the buses are coming," the young men with
>>> guns organized the crowd in order: old people in
>>> front, women and children next, men in the back. just
>>> so that when the buses came, there would be priorities
>>> of who got out first.
>>> 
>>> Denise said the fights she saw between the young men
>>> with guns were fist fights. she saw them put their
>>> guns down and fight rather than shoot up the crowd.
>>> but she said that there were a handful of people shot
>>> in the convention center; their bodies were left
>>> inside, along with other dead babies and old people.
>>> 
>>> Denise said the people thought there were being sent
>>> there to die. lots of people being dropped off, nobody
>>> being picked up. cops passing by, speeding off.
>>> national guard rolling by with guns aimed at them. and
>>> yes, a few men shot at the police, because at a
>>> certain point all the people thought the cops were
>>> coming to hurt them, to kill them all. she saw a young
>>> man who had stolen a car speed past, cops in pursuit;
>>> he crashed the car, got out and ran, and the cops shot
>>> him in the back. in front of the whole crowd. she saw
>>> many groups of people decide that they were going to
>>> walk across the bridge to the west bank, and those
>>> same groups would return, saying that they were met at
>>> the top of the bridge by armed police ordering them to
>>> turn around, that they weren't allowed to leave.
>>> 
>>> so they all believed they were sent there to die.
>>> 
>>> Denise's niece found a pay phone, and kept trying to
>>> call her mother's boyfriend in Baton Rouge, and
>>> finally got through and told him where they were. the boyfriend, and
>>> Denise's brother, drove down from Baton Rouge and came and got them.
>>> they had to bribe a few cops, and talk a few into letting them into the
>>> city ("come on, man, my 2-year-old niece is at the Convention Center!"),
>>> then they took back roads to get to them.
>>> 
>>> after arriving at my other cousin's apartment in Baton
>>> Rouge, they saw the images on TV, and couldn't believe
>>> how the media was portraying the people of New
>>> Orleans. she kept repeating to me on the phone last
>>> night: make sure you tell everybody that they left us
>>> there to die. nobody came. those young men with guns
>>> were protecting us. if it wasn't for them, we wouldn't
>>> have had the little water and food they had found.
>>> 
>>> that's Denise Moore's story.
>>> 
>>> Lisa C. Moore

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