I would rather be able to pay my bills and then look at flowers!

Mary

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>Approved-By:  Claire McCullough <[log in to unmask]>
>Date:         Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:53:50 -0400
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>From: Claire McCullough <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject:      Re: [UTCSTAFF] Salaries & massages
>Comments: To: tom kunesh <[log in to unmask]>
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>I agree with Tom Kunesh that this campus needs much more green space, and
>that landscaping makes a huge difference in the feel of the campus.  I went
>to Vanderbilt as an undergraduate, and at that time (I won't admit how many
>years ago) the campus had a great many flowering trees, bushes, etc. that
>made you want to sit and drink in the wonderful variety of sights and
>smells.
>
>Think of it as an expense in recruiting and retaining students--I believe
>that students are less likely to consider a strictly utilitarian campus with
>nothing that "invited people to physically stay a while."  (My personal
>choice would be to take the streets that have been blocked off and replace
>them with gardens and paths.)
>
>If I had a choice between making a little more money each year, and having
>the place I spend so much of my time be really beautiful, I'd vote for the
>flowers and trees! <|;-)
>
>Claire McCullough
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>From: UTC Staff E-Mail List [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
>tom kunesh
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>>Tom,
>>
>>Ya know what!!!??? Maybe you should go back to Seattle!!!
>>
>>Sharron
>
>that sentiment sounds a lot like
>UTC: Love It or Leave It.  no critique or commentary allowed.
>not a shining example of academic tolerance and dialogue.
>
>Seattle University has a beautiful campus;
>UTC could benefit from a beautiful campus, too.
>SU's campus landscaping invited people to physically stay a while -
>a very good concept to cultivate in any school that's looking to
>retain its students (especially one trying to expand its on-campus
>student body), faculty & staff (ever seen an ugly top-notch university?).
>the medium (the physical plant of UTC) -is- the message,
>and academic mediums that look good send better messages.
>
>your argument that critics of UTC should go somewhere else
>applies, i presume, as well to professors who critique UTC's
>salaries to be less-than-beautiful and suggest that salaries
>be improved on campus as top priority.
>-- maybe they should all go work in Georgia high schools.
>that would go a long way towards solving faculty salary discontent.
>
>but hey, if you get me the bucks, i -will- go back there.
>and even stay a while.  maybe learn a little Jesuit gardening.
>' deal?
>
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>>At 03:21 PM 4/26/01 -0400, tom kunesh wrote:
>>>>Speaking of trees ...... why does the state have money to spend on the
>>>>"perpetual" landscaping of the campus grounds but not on salaries?  Some
>of
>>>>the work done over the past two to three years has been VERY expensive.
>>>>        morris holder
>>>
>>>was just out at Seattle University -- the campus landscape begged
>>>for a person to sit down and contemplate the trees, the grasses,
>>>the bushes, the stones, to just stop, sit, look.
>>>have never seen a more beautiful campus, and i walked around
>>>it -more- because it was beautiful and interesting to look at.
>>>then i think of the spots at UTC that aren't beautiful, that
>>>make me walk by more quickly ...
>>>and i realize the truth of McLuhan's proverbs,
>>>the medium is the massage (1967)/
>>>the medium is the message (1996).
>>>
>>>UTC's campus landscape and the buildings are the medium,
>>>and the message isn't anywhere close to a massage.
>>>
>>>;>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: Shannon Marie Smith <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 12:34 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [UTCSTAFF] Salaries
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> With everyone griping about funding, I'm just curious how many are
>against
>>>>> a Tennessee state income tax and/or lottery?
>>>>>
>>>>> Money doesn't grow on trees, it has to come from somewhere.
>>>
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