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Lee Bell <[log in to unmask]>
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SCUBA or ELSE! Diver's forum <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:17:51 -0400
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Bjorn Vang Jensen wrote:


> Sorry, I just had to pass on this quote from Lee on April 27th:
>
> >I'll give it a try, thanks.  I've sampled other programs, Morphius, Lemon
> >Tree, and the like.  So far, Grokster has been the best, but only because
> >they seem to have users that share my taste in music.  I find things
there
> >on my first try that friends have been trying to find for months.  Some
of
> >the other peer to peer services also seem to be set up for those with
high
> >speed connections, which I don't have at home.
>
> I guess we can now conclude that it was definitely not in the line of duty
> that Lee used these services, but that he is in fact as criminal as the
> Chinese copyright violators.

Read the article and you might look a bit less foolish.

> Let's juxtapose this with the following line from his post today:
>
> > I wonder how something the rest of the world thinks is illegal
> >and even wrong, got so deeply rooted.
>
> Yeah, I wonder, too.

You can't be wondering much.  You obviously didn't read the linked article.

Fair use laws in the U.S. have always allowed people to copy music and
movies for personal listening and/or viewing at a later date.  They are not
quite so liberal about sharing of music and are downright stringent on
reproducing copyrighted material for commercial presentation or sale.  When
the U.S. music industry started clamping down, it was those that offered for
download rather than those that did the downloading, that were the subject
of litigation.  So, in answer to your somewhat ignorant and more than a
little sarcastic comments:
1. No, I did not use Grokster in the line of duty or on any government
computer equipment.
2. I have never opened music stored on my computer for download by others.
3. I callange you to provide evidence if criminality or to appologize for
your comment.
4. If you read the article, you would have seen that it was referring to the
musice pirated and sold, not music shared with private individuals at no
cost.
5. By far, the majority of the music on my drive was ripped from CDs I,
personally own.

Next time you decide to take such a cheap shot, you might consider doing a
bit more research.  You are clearly even more clueless in this than you
accused me of being relative to the culture in Asia.

And I noticed, in your rush to attack me, you didn't have anything to say
about the situation in China, did you?

Lee

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