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Lee Bell <[log in to unmask]>
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SCUBA or ELSE! Diver's forum <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 14 Mar 2004 18:30:34 -0500
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Bjorn Vang Jensen wrote:

> It still early in the afternoon here, so I haven't had sufficient
> alcohol to bring my IQ down low enough to visit rec.scuba :-) Suffice
> it to say that you are right.

I don't know everything that Hugh and Bob have been talking about, but I've
not had a word to say about his photos.  Since, as you all know, I don't get
Bob's messages, I don't even know what messages Bob's referring to.  Suffice
it to say that Bob is not right.  The messages, left intact below, contain
not one word posted by me.  Bob's childish antics are, however, being
criticized by pretty much everybody on rec.scuba and I certainly agree with
them.  How pathetic is it for Bob to take time to call people names from the
internet cafe of a cruise ship.

As low a reguard as you may each hold rec.scuba, Bob can't even stay out of
trouble there.  Sad, sad little boy, looking for respect in all the wrong
places, and running home to Scuba-SE to cry about how unfairly he's been
treated when he's recognized for the child he is being.

You want to judge respective actions in rec.scuba, I suggest you visit
rec.scuba and judge on the merits of what you find.  If you don't have the
courage or the inclination to do so, I suggest you keep your uninformed
opinions about who is right and who is wrong, to yourself.

Lee

> And anyone shallow enough to criticize others' photography - without
> being specifically asked to provide such criticism - is best left
> alone anyway.
>
> Bjorn
>
> Reef Fish wrote:
>> On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 23:52:28 -0500, Krazy Kiwi Viv
>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Has there been a coup in Scuba-SE, led by Lee Bell, while I am gone?
>> :-)
>>
>> Of all things, Lee and Hugh Huntzinger (remember him?  who tried to
>> bar me from Scuba-L while I was diving in Cozumel) are joining forces
>> in rec.scuba, in attacking me on those Cozumel Pix I put up to show
>> the critters we saw at the Las Palmas site!!!   :-)
>>
>> The SAME Yahoo web pix cited here.
>>
>> Remember the e-nekton article by Bjorn about NOT saving a pic in
>> .jpg while in the process of editing it in PhotoShop" because of the
>> automatic compression?  Not a photog myself, I learned THAT much
>> from Bjorn's article.
>>
>> So, when Hugh attacked Sue's pix for being lousy and that he could do
>> a much better job editing it, I remarked that its quality had already
>> been degraded because I had re-saved it in .jpg after cropping, and
>> re-saved it in again in .jpg in the Yahoo webpage.
>>
>> Hugh now demanded that I should "apologize" for giving the wrong
>> information about saving in .jpg!!!   :-)
>>
>> I am not going to respond to that demand for apology until I get
>> home because I wanted to clip what Bjorn said verbatim (which I think
>> I paraphrased accurately), and this browser on the cruiseship does
>> NOT have any editing feature as simple as "copy" and "paste"!
>>
>>
>> I get flamed for all kind of stuff, but I have to admit this was
>> the first time I was flamed for showing some pix which I called
>> "mug shots" just to say "we saw them there".  Then the flame
>> flared off to other areas that you wouldn't believe!!
>>
>> Don't worry, my asbestos drysuit is still flawless.  :-)
>>
>>
>> At any rate, that is my latest fallout from having read Bjorn's
>> excellent article in e-Nekton, about editing digital pix with
>> PhotoShop!  e-Nekton #3, I think.  :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> On e-Nekton #11, Viv said,
>>> Mate!  Another great issue. Had a good giggle over your
>>> CounterStrike article.
>>
>> I got more than a giggle over that article.  I actually could RELATE
>> to the part about poking things into the ear canal to try to keep it
>> "clean" and clear of ear wax etc.   The instrument(s) I used were
>> the round end of small paper clips and Sue's hair-pins.
>>
>> I did such a good job of cleaning that my ear canal got irritated
>> and started to grow a skin-like membrane deep in the canal that
>> required surgical removal by an ENT Specialist!  :-)
>>
>> So, Strike's advice of never stick anything smaller than your elbow
>> into your ear seems like a good one.
>>
>> For Strike, the downside of distortion or loss of hearing is the
>> inability to hear someone offering him a beer.  :-)
>>
>> For me, I had already suffered the downside of paying $70 each for
>> three dive hoods that I "heard" was $17 each.  :-))
>>
>>
>> Just when I thought I had dived all the divable sites on the West
>> side of Cozumel, my latest series of first dives were different
>> sections of Columbia Deep (between Columbia and Punta Sur), and
>> today the site was so different that I am sure I had never dived
>> it before.  Sue saw and photo'd an eagle ray while I was venturing
>> into the abyss admiring the vertical wall and narrow ledges.
>>
>> -- Bob.

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