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From:
Reef Fish <[log in to unmask]>
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SCUBA or ELSE! Diver's forum <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 16 Mar 2004 06:17:41 -0500
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:26:44 -0500, Jeff Kell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Michael Levy wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 18:19:34 -0500 Reef Fish wrote:
>>>Jeff,
>>>I must formally ask you to send a copy of my post asking Chuck Hopf
>>>(Co-Manager) to reveal the identity of the Robert Lung forger, for
>>>REASONS I detailed, and ask for Chuck's explanation of WHY he chooses
>>>to conceal the identity of said Robert Lung.
>> Hey Bob why not do your own research.. looking at his headers
>> Received: from [68.232.180.104]
>>  by web40413.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP;
>>  Sun, 07 Mar 2004 15:44:03 PST
>>
>> the post originates from IP # 68.232.180.104

Thanks Michael.  Perhaps this will flush the forger out, since
Chuck Hopf is still stone-walling the identity of Robert Lung.

I did get THIS far.  But keep in mind that I am not the geek type,
and I am certainly an ignoramous in the forgery business.

To put things into perspective, there was a case of a Jesus in
Scuba-L, who not only accused me of forgery (but the forger was
Man enough to have posted a confession of why HE did what Jesus
accused me of doing), but caused enough disruption in Scuba-L
to have the unprecedented (and never again, and never will)
cooperation of a TEAM of geeks (Jeff Kell, Nick Simicich, Carl
Heinzl) and one expert forger Hugh Huntzinger to track Jesus
down.  They found out that he was a BIG WIG GEEK in the country
Colombia, but was too clever to leave enough fingerprints to
be be caught in the scenes of his crimes.

All *I* could do was to provide the detail headers of the emails
he sent ME personally.


>> which is in Pittsburgh on adelphia.net.

you got one step farther than I did.

Jeff Kell did teach me (quite some time ago) to use
samspades.org to track or determine the ID of the IP from which
my various internet security software were reporting hackers
trying, HUNDERDS of times in one case, to break into my PC.

I tried samspades.org on the IP address I had, and got NOTHING.

On re-trying it on 68.232.180.104 this morning, I DID get:

68.232.180.104 = [ 68-232-180-104.pittpa.adelphia.net ]
  OrgName:    Adelphia Cable Communications
  OrgID:      ADEL
  Address:    1 North Main Street
  City:       Coudersport
  StateProv:  PA
  PostalCode: 16915
  Country:    US
  NetRange:   68.232.0.0 - 68.235.255.255
  CIDR:       68.232.0.0/14
  NetName:    ADELPHIA-CABLE-6
  NetHandle:   NET-68-232-0-0-1
  Parent:     NET-68-0-0-0-0
  NetType:    Direct Allocation
  NameServer: NS1.ADELPHIA.NET
  NameServer: NS2.ADELPHIA.NET
  Comment:
  RegDate:    2003-06-26
  Updated:    2003-08-28
  AbuseHandle: IPE-ARIN
  AbuseName:   Internet Policy Enforcement
  AbusePhone:  1-866-473-2909
  AbuseEmail:  [log in to unmask]
  TechHandle: CKI8-ARIN
  TechName:   Kio  Carolyn
  TechPhone:  1-888-512-5111
  TechEmail:  [log in to unmask]
  OrgAbuseHandle: IPE-ARIN
  OrgAbuseName:   Internet Policy Enforcement
  OrgAbusePhone:  1-866-473-2909
  OrgAbuseEmail:  [log in to unmask]
  OrgTechHandle: CKI8-ARIN
  OrgTechName:   Kio  Carolyn
  OrgTechPhone:  1-888-512-5111
  OrgTechEmail:  [log in to unmask]
  CustName:   Adelphia
  Address:    1 North Main Street
  City:       Couderport
  StateProv:  PA
  PostalCode: 16915
  Country:    US
  RegDate:    2003-12-10
  Updated:    2003-12-10
  NetRange:   68.232.176.0 - 68.232.191.255
  CIDR:       68.232.176.0/20
  NetName:    682321760-Z8
  NetHandle:   NET-68-232-176-0-1
  Parent:     NET-68-232-0-0-1
  NetType:    Reassigned
  Comment:
  RegDate:    2003-12-10
  Updated:    2003-12-10
  AbuseHandle: IPE-ARIN
  AbuseName:   Internet Policy Enforcement
  AbusePhone:  1-866-473-2909
  AbuseEmail:  [log in to unmask]
  TechHandle: CKI8-ARIN
  TechName:   Kio  Carolyn
  TechPhone:  1-888-512-5111
  TechEmail:  [log in to unmask]
  OrgAbuseHandle: IPE-ARIN
  OrgAbuseName:   Internet Policy Enforcement
  OrgAbusePhone:  1-866-473-2909
  OrgAbuseEmail:  [log in to unmask]
  OrgTechHandle: CKI8-ARIN
  OrgTechName:   Kio  Carolyn
  OrgTechPhone:  1-888-512-5111
  OrgTechEmail:  [log in to unmask]


THAT info at least gives me the addresses to report the abuse!


>
>The full headers aren't kept in the archives, but if you have the
>originals, then yes, you can narrow it down considerably.

Well, Jeff, I DO have the full headers of the PRIVATE email he sent
to my [log in to unmask] address, which was forwarded
to my clemson.edu address:

Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]>
Received: from CLEMSON.EDU ([unix socket])
        by mail (Cyrus v2.1.12) with LMTP; Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:49:47 -0500
X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2
Received: from mta139.mail.scd.yahoo.com (mta139.mail.scd.yahoo.com
[66.218.86.55])
        by CLEMSON.EDU (8.12.8p1-20030924/8.12.8) with SMTP id
i222njvu029784
        for <[log in to unmask]>; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 21:49:45 -0500 (EST)
Received: from mta139.mail.scd.yahoo.com for [log in to unmask]; Mar  1
18:48:31 2004 -0800
X-Yahoo-Forwarded: from [log in to unmask] to
[log in to unmask]
Received: from 66.218.78.109  (HELO web40412.mail.yahoo.com)
(66.218.78.109)
  by mta139.mail.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; Mon, 01 Mar 2004 18:48:31 -0800
Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]>
Received: from [68.232.180.104] by web40412.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon,
01 Mar 2004 18:48:31 PST
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 18:48:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert Lung <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [SCUBA-SE] Can I Marry My Dog?
To: [log in to unmask]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
===================================================
Note that it was from the same IP he used to post in Scuba-SE

Received: from [68.232.180.104]
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 18:48:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert Lung <[log in to unmask]>

>Jeff

Thanks Michael (Levy) and Jeff.

I leave it to your able hands to find out who this Robert Lung is,
since you (Jeff) have MUCH more info than I regarding the SE
subscribers who used that IP in posting NON-forgeries.

However, it is KNOWN that this forger has NOT posted anything
in his REAL name in Scuba-SE for quite a while.

I STILL like to know Chuck Hopf's REASON for concealing the true
identity of this forger.  I think we're much closer now to flusing
out the ID of this cowardly scoundrel.

That's ALL the info I have on this Robert Lung.

-- Bob.

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