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Bjorn Vang Jensen <[log in to unmask]>
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SCUBA or ELSE! Diver's forum <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 11 Oct 2003 09:37:17 +0800
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1) There is nothing wrong with Mika's spelling. Depends on where in the
world your English is from. Just like "aluminum" and "aluminium"

2) "Bjørn" is the ultimately correct spelling of my name, although if I were
from Sweden (shudder!) or Germany (mild shiver), it would be "Björn". "oe"
is the accepted English way to transliterate the letter "ø" (or "ö" for that
matter). "Bjorn" is the way I have chosen to write my name when in a forum
of non-Danish speakers. I did that after explaining the "ø" and the "oe" for
the 265,000th time. I suspect that's why Swedish immigrants chose to change
their common last name "Jönsson" to "Johnson". Not surprisingly, Mika
displays excellent language skills by referring to me as the "bear", which
is indeed the meaning of "Bjørn".

3) Here is the sequence (loose from memory):

3.1) Lee states, "the people of my country are not the ones who buy the
tuna".

3.2) I ask, "hmm, what is the price of a piece of bluefin sashimi in the US
these days ?".

3.3) Lee replies "don't know, the guy writing the check at the dock is
almost always Oriental".

And it took off from there. I, of course, asked the question in 3.2 to
demonstrate that there are indeed people in your country buying bluefin
tuna, and they pay a high price for it. There are 3 possible reasons for
your choice of reply.

3.3.1) You didn't understand the question or its intent
3.3.2) You understood it and chose to deflect it away from the people of
your country, by moving it to the Bahamas
3.3.3) You understood it and chose to deflect it back to the Asians you were
criticizing throughout the thread

I'd say 3.3.1 is probably the one. It fits the rest of your behavior (or
behaviour) in this thread, AND you were referring to whole fish at the dock,
whereas I was talking about a small sliver of raw fish known as sashimi.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Doelle" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 07:52
Subject: [SCUBA-SE] Dancing with Floridians


Lee mumbled:

>You should soon hear from Bjorn who will ask "Who's Bjoern?" and what's
"focussing."  I'd hate to think that he's only interested in correcting my
spelling.

Lee, doubly lusional again? So he'd rather see Bjorn than Bjoern. I
sometimes write Bjørn, but am usually too lazy. Do you even know why I
write Bjoern?

And what the fuck is wrong with the seppling of 'focussing'? That's the
correct spelling since at least 1807. 'Focusing', with just one 's', is
also correct, but so what. And it was das Wiesel that wrote that word,
anyway, not the bear.

>You probably should have let it drop, but you didn't.
You're correct.  It was me that wanted to describe the person.  That was my
intent.  That's why I used the word Oriental. <

And most of us wondered why. Since it added zilch to the point being
argued.

> That's why, if the word I used is not the right one, I'd like to know
what is.  You've done a fine job
of stating the obvious.<

I've already tried to explain to you that the 'word' (oriental) you used
was irrelevant.

This is getting really old, but:
BvJ asks a simple question about fish in the US. You don't answer that, but
move the goal posts to the Bahamas and babble about Asians in the fishing
business on some unspecified Bahamas dock instead. Where you always hang
out, no doubt, since you just 'KNOW' that only Asians buy tuna. Etc., etc,
pp.

>Are you going to tell me where you go to get definitions or just let that
drop too?<

As Strike has already pointed out to you not too long ago: this is not the
educate-Lee-list. I've already given it my best shot on this subject.

MtW

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