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Michael Doelle <[log in to unmask]>
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Lee said:

>Florida has been filling it's beaches longer than I've been alive. 
Anything
that expresses alarm at this practice is at least 50 years out of date.
This part sounds like an attempt to place blame where blame does not
belong.
The first reef has been dead for a long time.<

Ahhh, but pretty much every single ecologic catastrophe anywhere in the
world tends to be excused this way.

"We've been doing this since Adam, and, by the way, it is damn profitable.
So get off our backs already."

Ohh, sounds a bit like the shark finning issue, doesn't it?  

>One of the things mentioned is the issue of increased water temperatures.
This is a world problem, not a local one.  It may be true, but it's not
something that can be addressed locally.<

Hehehe. And the damn Euro-Commies tried to sucker the US into signing the
Kyoto protocol. Which was of course totally unacceptable, it might have
hurt the US economy.

Which is really hilarious, since when the old workers' paradises still
existed, environmental protection was still a capitalist conspiracy to
'bring the USSR to their knees'. 

Or maybe the problem simply was that Clinton signed it (Kyoto). 

Brad> Here is an excerpt from a link from the letter I sent:
> This proposed dredging project is completely unnecessary. There is little
> beach erosion taking place in the stretch still protected by the living
> reef.

LB>Which reefs are you talking about that were killed by previous beach
dredging?  Which previous beach dredging?  Do you have some evidence
supporting your statement?

Brad is right. And I certainly know about the beach 'restoration' in Boca
Raton in 1989/90, because I happened to live there then. The idiot project
went ahead, despite widespread protests.

At that time the 'first reef' at Red Reef Park in Boca was far from dead,
it was a popular snorkeling spot off the beach. After the beach project it
was, of course, gone. During the process the dregding company also
destroyed parts of the 3rd reef. And got sued for it.

The project produced a nice wide beach at Spanish River Park. Two years
later it was mostly gone again.

>Yes, I'm aware of that.  If you're so concerned, how does it happen that
you
don't know where the sewage outfalls are?  Everybody else does?  The
Broward
County outfalls are several miles from shore, in several hundred feet of
water, beyond the third reef line. 

Got any biological treatment plants yet? Dumping mechanically treated
sewage is USSR technology.

M

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