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Robert Delfs <[log in to unmask]>
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SCUBA or ELSE! Diver's forum <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 16 Jan 2004 00:02:28 +0800
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We'll have to finallhy dive together sometime, and you can tell me
whether the kick I do that I call a frog kick is a frog kick, or
something else.

Robert

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 21:53:42 +1100, David Strike wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:49:47 +0800, Robert Delfs wrote:
>
>> Hmm. I'm not sure whether the kick I use that "call" a frog kick is
>> remotely similar to what you (or anyone else) is talking about, but
>> what I do is certainly very different from the "leg kick of the breast
>> stroke" in conventional swimming.
>
>G'Day, Robert!  The frog kick used underwater is markedly different from the
>style used in the breaststroke - although using much the same technique.
>When underwater the lower portion of the leg is bent at a 90 degree angle to
>the knees. i.e. that lower portion of the leg sticks up towards the surface.
>The action is then pretty much the same as for the breast stroke, except
>that the energy comes from both legs, ankles and thighs.  (This is hard to
>explain in words - for me, at least - and needs to be demonstrated and
>practiced before its effectiveness can be properly realised.)
>
>It's not the easiest of strokes to master properly.  But having once done
>so, you'll be surprised by its efficiency.  (And just to re-stress my
>position with finning:  Each technique has its own advantages - and, at the
>end of the day, depends on the user's ability, fitness, and their
>appreciation of what works best for them in a given environment.  The fin
>design plays an important - but not over-riding - role in the ability to
>move gracefully, speedily when necessary, and with comfort all of the time.
>
>Measuring a fin's capabilities by 'speed swimming' has little relevance to
>diving where, for preference, it should be capable of meeting the user's
>requirements in a variety of conditions, and where torque rather than speed
>is the proper measure of its usefulness.  (Having said that, at a personal
>level, I still find that I can move faster and for longer employing a frog
>kick than a flutter kick.)  :-)
>
>But then - as I also said - It's 'different strokes for different folks'.
>:-)))
>
>Strike


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