On Saturday, December 09, 2000 6:44 PM, Christian Gerzner wrote:

(snip)

> S> Yes!  During the Port Jackson's breeding season we regularly see
> > dragons and PJ's together.  It is a regular occurrence as Julian and the
> > others that regularly dive with therm will testify.

> Uhh, swimming together?

Yes!

>Over the kelp?

Yes!

Or are the PJ's doing their usual
> somnolent dozing (they get pretty busy at night in breeding season) on a
> sand patch?

And yes again!

Your second message seems to contravene this. See your quote
> annotated *.

Christian!  We see seadragons swimming *with* Port Jacksons AND over and
around them when they're lying still on the sand!

> CG> > To add insult to injury, (not Strike's, he's most unlikely to have
> > > sourced the pic) kelp, that which is below the protagonists, is highly
> > > unlikely to travel as steeply uphill as shown in the pic. Not around
> > > here anyway not unless this was angled incorrectly/unknowingly by the
> > > Graphics people.
>
> S> I can assure you yhat the picture is untouched.  Neither isa there
> > anything wrong with the kelp.  The picture itself, however, is at an
angle.

> OK, so the pic is untouched, well ... . I do think I suggested that the
> pic might be at an angle?
>
> In the second message:
>
> *S> PJ's often just lie around in the sand looking like logs.  We've seen
> > dozens of them at a time lying on the sand with Seadragons drifting
above > them.
>
> Yep, LYING AROUND IN THE SAND. But I wager not with a _giant_ (see
> below) Sea Dragon above them making a race for it along a kelp bed.
>
> If that pic, as illustrated, had been of PJ's lying somnolent with a
> dragon, even several dozen (well ... NO), drifting above them I would
> have accepted the image as is. In this image the PJ is moving (unlike a
> log) ABOVE kelp (NOT sand) with the Dragon apparently swiming along in
> the same direction ABOVE IT. No, I don't think so.

Christian.  I have no wish to enter into another long wriggling argument
with you.   I don't care a tuppenny toss what *you* think.  The fact of the
matter is that the photographer is an Instructor at the dive store.  I have
known him for many years;  I commissioned him to take some piccies at Shelly
Beach for the article:  They're not retouched or interfered with in any way:
And if they were, does it matter?

Strike