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Andy M Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:47:31 +0100
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>On  Monday, June 14, 2004 6:26 PM, Andy M Johnson wrote:

>(snip)

>> Reverse profiles are not often done simply because you get better

profiles

>> (i.e. longer or deeper) by not doing them. Medical wisdom isn't really

the

>> influence, it's common sense to do the better profile.

>You've got a beter understanding of the mechanics of decompression than

me,

then!  :-))

I don't have any tables to hand, but a quick play around will reveal all.

Try something like 30m for 20 mins followed by a 30 min SI then 20m for 30

mins, you might have to adjust the numbers a bit. Then try the reverse

profile, you can't do it without going into deco.....which is why we

normally don't do reverse profiles !!!!



>>However, as reverse

>> profiles are not regularly done there is very little information about

>> them.

>> But the one thing that always gets my goat is the DM who will insist

that

>> you make the first dive deeper so that you do not

>> do a reverse profile, I can't see the point.



>It's legal protection for the Instructor/DM/Dive Supervisor etc. etc.

i.e.

>as long as the 'rule books' say reverse profiles are bad - regardless of

>suspicion that they may not be - then the DM (or whoever's running the

dive)

>has an obligation to follow the standard wisdom in order to protect

>themselves.  :-)



>In that regard, I've never had a problem - in the past, or now - if

>necessary I just lie to them in order for them to fulfill their

>requirements.  I never, ever, argue with them!  They're doing their job to

>the best of their ability.  Some of them may not be as seemingly smart as

>the rest of us, but if they're good at what they do then it's incumbent on

>those of us who dive for recreation to listen to their teachings - not

>condemn them for following procedures designed to protect them from the

>fallout when things turn to shit!!  :-)

>Strike

Ah, you mean they are more than blissfully ignorant of any deco theory and

happy to stay that way !!! I can accept it if they say, 'you have to do

this to protect us from litigation', but they always claim it is better /

safer, which is a patently false statement and dangerous. If (for whatever

reason) you have to do, say, a 30m dive followed by a 35m dive, there is no

point in going deeper to, say 40m, on the first dive just to prevent it

being a reverse profile.

Cheers.....

                                                                            

 Andy.....                                                                  

                                                                            

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