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Michael Levy <[log in to unmask]>
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SouthEast US Scuba Diving Travel list <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:15:17 -0500
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 . On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:42:34 -0500 Steve Weigold wrote:

> >
> > I always smile a bit when I see people make the argument that it is OK
> > in their case but no good for others... In my view if the circumstances
> > can be made good for one's own circumstances then why not for others?
> >
>
> I always smile a bit when people either don't read, or don't understand the
> entire post before commenting.  At no time, did I ever indicate that the
> circumstances were good for me, and not for others.  IN FACT, what I said
> was that if someone else was willing to match my stringent circumstances,
> then its ok for them too.

My reply was not intended at you specifically....
Your reply seems defensive... my comments were intended to be general in
nature... you must have been reading too many Feeesh responses recently.
;-)

> YOU even quoted me on it:
>
> > > Having said all that, if Mom or Dad is prepared to make a time
> investment
> > > like mine, THEN I would certify their kid, otherwise take jr somewhere
> else.

Really? What if they have someone else to be involved. I got the
impression you required the parents to be involved... my view is that is
not necessarily the best thing... I rather see someone who is interested
in diving AND the children be involved.

> > Not quite sure how inability to carry an 80 cu ft tank out of the water
> > fits in with the adult emergency?
>
> Perhaps it doesn't.  Perhaps this is erroneous on my part, but it seems to
> me that a diver who can't handle an 80 on land is unlikely to be able to
> handle my (large) adult body with an 80 on it in the water.

Why I don't consider diving only with a small child suitable, the group
should be enlarged so that another adult is also present in the
immediate area to assist the small child if necessary.

> > In potential u/w emergency situations how much good are we 3/6/10 feet
> > away from the child?
> > I often feel that many certified diver parents put too much value on
> > *their* presence near the child diver as being the solution to problem
> > prevention... I maintain it should be in finding an Instructor who works
> > well with child students and gets them to appreciate what is involved in
> > diving.
>
> I NEVER EVER said that my presence NEAR the child diver is the solution to
> the problem.  On the contrary I feel that my presence near the child does
> nothing to solve the problem if I am in fact the one that needs assistance.

That was not directed at you... if so I would have said "do you feel"
rather than "I often feel that many certified parents".

My comments were intended for more than just your reading as this is a
public list... were they only for you I would have emailed you.  ;-)

I'm sorry you misunderstood that much of my response was general in
nature and not necessarily directed at your situation.. I was attempting
to add thoughts not attack your view or process.


Michael
--
Divers know the true meaning of peace of mind.

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