This shaving cream-nonsense misses the point. An exploding can of shaving
cream can not bring down an aircraft. An exploding tank can. Like Chuck
says, there are no grey areas for security personnel, and there shouldn't
be.

Think about it: So it's a scuba tank. Big deal. Does that guarantee that it
contains air ? Or perhaps something more lethal ? Does the fact that the
valve is off guarantee that there is not a clever tank-within-a-tank inside
? Is it fair to ask security personnel to make that call ? Call the airline
and find out if there is a way to check it in, if it means that much.

People like myself, who make a living from traveling a lot, appreciate the
new restrictions. In fact, many are not even new to us, only to the US.
Think about what the previous "security" restrictions cost you and the
world, then consider how much time you think it is reasonable for the world
to spend on your pony bottle.

Bjorn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 12:25
Subject: Re: [SCUBA-SE] Travel to Cozumel


> Probably not but dont be surprised if they ask for it.  Things have
changed
> since 9/11.  And not always for the better.  You may want to call the
> airline or look at their web page for their most current policy.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 9:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [SCUBA-SE] Travel to Cozumel
>
>
> > Will I be required to remove the valve from my can of shaving cream?
> >
> > > If you want to get it on the plane.
> >
> >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 9:30 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [SCUBA-SE] Travel to Cozumel
> > >
> > >
> > > > Should I pack enough tools to remove a valve from a tank filled to
> > > > less than 40 psi?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.webspan.net/~hummer/flyingpony.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Depends on the airline. None that I know of will allow a
pressurized
> > > tank
> > > > > and short of taking the valve off how you gonna prove it is
drained?
> > > Yeah
> > > > > yeah I know guages. Tell it to the baggage inspector making 6.25
and
> > > hour
> > > > > that has a set of rules to follow and the power to keep you off
the
> > > plane.
> > > > > ;-)
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 7:59 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [SCUBA-SE] Travel to Cozumel
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > How are they about (valve in) pony bottles?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- kc
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>