On Wednesday, October 04, 2000 4:15 PM, Charley wrote:
(snip)
> The "newcomers" (at least based on what I've read) as well as some
> "oldcomers" (once again, based on messages here and elsewhere), could give
a
> shit less who Mike is. We also (based on what I've read) could give a shit
> about what happened in Scuba-L. We also (based on what I've read) think
you
> whine too much.

Which "we's" are we speaking for?

> It's a sad state when someone who isn't even a diver (myself) have to
point
> out what it appears everyone else is afraid to, you're a whiner. I don't
> know if the others are afraid of you for some reason, or lost what sense
of
> decency they once held, or follow you blindly for whatever reason.. It's
> just sad...

Personally, I've learned how to use the delete key or to ignore anything
that doesn't interest me.  When you do learn to dive then whatever you do
don't log on to the Techdiver forum.  You'll never sleep again and you'll
start to wonder how those who complain about the use of the term "Clueless
newbie" manage to bite their tongues and refrain from telling the folks
subscribed to that list to moderate their debating style! :-)

> What Nick, Dick or Prick did to you or anyone else is "water under the
> bridge" for most (based on what I've read).

> The only bad thing about Nick that I have noticed since my arrival on the
> scene is he also isn't man enough to let it go either. *BUT*, the only
time
> he has flashbacks is when you show up. So, even though these isn't 1/10%
the
> scuba info in Scuba-L, there also isn't 1/50% the whining. I'll take my
> learning in small bites if it means I don't have to put up with adults who
> act like children more often than they act like adults.

(snip)

> Nick,
>
> Do whatever you need to do, just make sure you turn my ID back on after
> whatever suspension you feel is deserved, as I still plan on learning to
> SCUBA, and need others around to learn from.

Just be sure to get a diving Instructor who agrees with all of your
preconceived notions about diving and who'll never disagree with you.   You
may not live long but you'll have the satisfaction of knowing that you did
it your way!

>Like I teach my kids... you are
> a product of your decisions and I am prepared to be suspended for breaking
a
> posted rule.

Bravo!  And now that you've committed the same sin that you acuse others of
...? :-)

> Charles E. Teel, Sr.

Strike