Lee wrote:

>that knowingly violate the laws are not wrong for doing so and, lets face
>it, somebody that hides the evidence by sinking the bodies is providing
>pretty clear evidence that they knew they were wrong.

Like I wrote in my last e-mail, they have to tie buoys to them for them NOT
to sink.

>So, you believe that criminals are not at fault, that it's society that's
at
>fault for their choice to commit crimes, right?  If so, your beliefs are
>far, far different from mine.  I believe in personal responsibility for
>one's own actions.

Don't know what Strike believes, but I believe that the world is not quite
that black and white.

> They've usually been beaten to it by technologically advanced nations, or
> by
> highly organised criminal gangs using cyanide.

> Aren't they hungry too?  Don't their families need to eat?

No to the first part. The cyanide and dynamite is most commonly distributed
to the fishermen by large fishing fleets, often based out of Taiwan and
Japan (the gangs Strike refers to). Funnily enough, nobody goes after them.

> Aren't they just as right to kill fish for the
>money they need to buy the things they want their families to have?  Is
>killing and use of a whole fish somehow worse than killing a shark only for
>the fins and wasting everything else?

Had swordfish or tuna lately ? Do you practice catch-and-release ?

>You bet I"m right.  We don't throw people in jail because they are poor or
>hungry.

Bull! Read a couple of stats on the income distribution among inmates.
Poverty and hunger may not be a crime (although vagrancy, not common among
the wealthy, can be!), but they damned sure lead to crime. No law has ever
eradicated crime.

>We do apply established penalties for violating established laws.
>That's how it worked when you were a child and your mother told you to stay
>out of the cookie jar before dinner and that's how it still works today.

And I suppose you never raided the cookie jar in defiance of your mother's
"law" ? And if you did, why did you do it ?

Hungry, perhaps...?

Bjorn