> Since both Christian and Bjorn have been moved to express their views,
allow
> me to express mine.

Not ours to allow.  Your comments are as welcome as anyone's, more welcome
than some.  The one fundamental element of this list is, and since the
Scuba-L massacre, has been, the right to speak as you chose.

> I, for example, do not approve of anything that I may say here being used
on
> rec.scuba in a point-scoring-exercise.

Similarly, I do not approve of things being brought from rec.scuba or even
from Techdiver, to this forum, when used for similar purposes.  Were I not
active on rec.scuba, this might have passed more quietly.  That's not the
case.  Were Bob not active on rec.scuba, this thread might never have come
up.  That's not the case either.

> However, it does seem to me that unless all of the people subscribed to to
> SE pull their thumbs out of their bums and start regarding this as a
> learning/infotainment list, then it's in grave danger of going the same
way
> as Scuba-L.  (i.e. a few, "behind-the-scenes", people attempting to sway
> every subscriber to their point of view.)

I wish I thought it were that easy.  I don't think this list has a chance to
go the way of Scuba-L.  I don't think this list has a chance of becoming
what Scuba-L once was.  We have too many chiefs and too few indians.  To
make a Scuba-L, the one we used to enjoy, requires a very different mix of
experience and inexperience.

Your thoughts are clear and do you credit.

Lee