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<SNIP>
> So ... you baited my questions, but evaded all of "Schedule of dives,
> place of pick up for cattleboat, cost, etc."
>
> Were you doing a soft-sell of that shop for your instroketors, or
> just bragging about your substitute as a DM?
> >
It was not my intent to evade your question but I thought I had answered it.
You wanted more detail and I am happy to provide it.  BTW, most instructors
who use DMs prefer to use ones they know and trust and that was the case
here.  This was not a leading the dive DM this was a baby-sit the AOW
student type of DM.  No brag.  Just facts.

Schedule as far as I know is about the same as everyone else's and the price
is on a par with Aldora (about $70 USD including tax title and license and a
nice lunch on the boat.)  They picked this group up at Costa Club but the
boat is normally moored out in front of the Bahia so I spect they will pick
up there or most anywhere else as well. They have a web page that I'm sure
you can find.

<SNIP>
> More sales pitch for Yellow Rose.  Was the 'no real rules' for EVERYONE
> for ALL DMs on all YR dives, or was it just on that one particular
> occasion because of pinch-hitting DM Chuck?
>
> If it's the former, then it would be a VERY BAD policy for Yellow Rose
> because such 'dive as you please till you air runs out' is a very bad
> policy for MOST groups of that size, and MOST of the inexperienced
> divers in Coz, of which there are plenty.
>
Get a grip Bob. I am describing the experience not selling anything. First
question out of most peoples mouth when they ask about a dive op is 'can I
dive my own profile?'  So, rather than answer it later I answered it sooner.

It is probably NOT a good policy since as I noted, we had people all over
the ocean after the second dive on the second day.  Think I floated waiting
for a good 20-30 minutes.  With all the boat traffic in Coz these days that
is not a good thing.  But since I had the handy-dandy Viking sized safety
sausage any boat driver that did not see me had to be bat blind.

> >Towels after each dive.  Nice lunch during the SI.
>
> Once more -- what's the COST for a two-tank dive.  Is the SI on a
> beach?  What kind of lunch is "nice lunch"?  What are the schedule
> (times) of the dives.  These questions are particularly relevant
> since you chose to compare it with Aldora.
>
About 70 dollars, we left at 8:30 each morning and they scheduled a 3PM
departure on Fri (but I passed on those dives owing to honeydews - hanging
new ceiling fans.)

> > Everyone goes up when they are out of
> >air or they run the DM out of air (I have only seen that happen once
> >in all the years I have been coming here
>
> That's only because you've been diving mostly with the 120 tank-toting
> DMs of Aldora.  Though MANY DMs in Coz have excellent ACR, they are
> not that good collectively as a group.
>
No Bob, you havent been paying attention lately (if ever,)  Except for two
days in Dec when no one else was going out (town was empty) I had not gone
out with Aldora in almost a year and when I did, I was on HP 80 as were all
the Aldora DMs.  I have never seen an Aldora DM wearing an HP 120 and I have
done quite a few dives with Aldora.  They save those for the airhog
tourists.

> Moreover, diving till out of air is generally a poor policy.  In
> Cozumel, it's driven to ridiculous extremes by Aldora's bragging of
No argument from me.  Go scream at the tourist divers that drive the
economy.

<SNIP>.
> Wanna try again in telling us some hard facts (schedule, price,
> etc.) about Yellow Rose, and whether you would recommend it if not
> for your instroketor?   I guess not.  :-)
>
Anybody wants more hard facts than I have given here, can either ask me or
go to the Yellow Rose web site.  Would I recommend them?  It depends.  For
Bob Ling, no.  For most of the people on this list, probably not.  For
people that want that sort of diving experience, well if that is what they
want it is not a bad operation.  Better than DP or Blue Bubbles (IMO.)

BTW, the Federales are now harassing people at the airport who:
1) Walk off to get a cab
2) Drive a rental car from an agency other than the ones at the airport onto
the airport to pick up or drop off people
3) Are meeting people at the airport and holding up signs with their company
name on them (they are allowed a sign with the travelers name on it.)

They are threatening people with arrest and other unpleasantries.

CH
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