I've really got to get going now, but will be back next week sometime.

It appears that HP is not going to give out MPE source until it is too
late.  And even if they did, I am not sure that anyone would want to
tackle it without being well compensated, and it would take a fair
sized team of top techies to do it.

I guess a basic plan of attack needs to be drawn up that a "critical
mass" of techies and companies can agree on and support.  Followed by
a fleshed version with a timeline and some commitments.  It appears
that the 3rd party application system people are what is keeping MPE
alive now, and would be critical to moving forward.  When I get back,
I could send them my proposals for review and comment, and go from
there.  If you know who the key people are at any of the companies, I
would appreciate their contact info.

Bye for now,
- Pete


On 9/15/06, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>
> Because HP knows deep down they screwed up by trying to kill it when CF
> wanted to gone because there
>
> was no room for a propriety OS in it's line up of Commodity system line up.
> HP did not break out the value in MPE from HP-UX wich sells for very slim
> margins.
>
>
>
> Also since they were taken over by Compaq no pun intended, there mind set
> changed. There used to be a community atmosphere at HP. Carly liked the idea
> of how Compaq lawyers ran things and so the air in HP was changed from
> openness to draining the company of all it's talant pool.
>
>
>
>  Q.The longer they hold out, the less viable MPE becomes. Is  that their
> plan, waiting until there is no hope of resurrection?
>
>
>
> You answered your own question.
>
>
>
>  That is why people like you are a must to keep the flame burning. The board
> at OpenMpe have their hands tied. That does not mean they don't care, it's
> HP having them sign their life away with exclusive NDA's. I compare it to
> working for NSA. You cannot tell what you know or you will be eliminated.
> Then the slow death sentence of MPE. What HP did not plan for was the heavy
> resistance. People like you,the captain and there are many others that keep
> a low profile that are ready to keep MPE around for many years to come.
>
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> > J. Dolliver -
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> >
> > On 9/15/06, [log in to unmask] wrote:
> > >
> > > Pete, When the webpage is back up for OpenMpe take the time to read the
> > > minutes going back in time, you will see the bottle necks in this mess
> are
> > > Dave W, Mike P. These two guys are the slugs that HP has given the honor
> to
> > > "slow / stop" the process of allowing MPE source to be placed in the
> hands
> > > of a company that will safely store it.
> >
> > I will give it a read. Right now I have to prepare for a trip out of
> > town and won't be back until next week sometime.
> >
> > If HP wants to drop all support for MPE, why do they care what happens
> > to it? Why not open source it and put it up on an OpenMPE file
> > server? The longer they hold out, the less viable MPE becomes. Is
> > that their plan , waiting until there is no hope of resurrection?
> > Maybe the minutes will have some clues. Next week ...
> >
> > - Pete
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