> From: Mark Klein [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 1:08 PM
>
> On 1 Oct 2002 at 15:46, Schwartzman, Zelik wrote:
>
> > I'd much rather keep this on a professional level however
> people like
> > yourself certainly deserve a few four letter words.  You
> belong in the
> > same loony bin with the folks that decided to kill the box in the
> > first place. "EMOTIONAL????  You bet your ass"
>
> Sorry, dude. You're yelling at the wrong person. You can use whatever
> four letter words you want, but I think you can't see the forest
> through the trees.
>
> I've got 27 years on the platform, and my desire is to retire, still
> working on the platform at that time. But, I'm also a realist. I am
> working with others that think through small steps, we can accomplish
> the long term goal of some type of MPE beyond EOL. We have made
> sincere and significant progress. There is a long way to go, but at
> least there is an alternate and possible future that didn't exist a
> few months back.
>
> Can you and the others that are bellyaching about what is going on
> say that you are actively working with the OpenMPE or Interex
> communities to ensure that future? I don't think so.
>
> So, either help us, or shut up. Complaining about the progress helps
> no one.
>

Even though I've publicly raised the bar setting what HP should do
significantly past the OpenMPE "gang of six" (see my September 3000 Newswire
net.digest column, or Burke's Manifesto for HP distributed at HPWorld), I
want to say I agree with Mark and others that significant progress has been
made and should not be discounted.

The idea that someone would imply Mark Klein wants to kill MPE would be
laughable if we had not just seen it come across this list.

If it were not for the work of Mark Klein, there would be no gnu on MPE,
which means there would be no Apache/iX, there would be no Samba/iX, there
would be no Sendmail/iX, and on and on. In fact, I really believe 11/14/2001
would have happened sooner without the contributions of Mark and others.

Let's return some civility to the debate. I'm disappointed HP has not gone
further and I will continue to push and prod it to do more, but I'm relieved
they've at least opened the door to a future for MPE. This should not be
sneered at.

John Burke