Once again I feel compelled to put in my 2 cents worth.  I think the Mike P
bashing really needs to stop.  Mike offers a string of hope that someone in
HP really cares about us 3000 users.  The rest of HP can go to hell however
Mike has been nothing but helpful in these dire times.

As we get ever closer to the EOL of the 3000 we need to step back and see
the forest through the trees.  We are all eventually doomed to extinction at
one point or another.  Just hope all of our IRAs and other source of
retirement income are up to the challenge that will be in all of our
futures.

-----Original Message-----
From: OpenMPE Support Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of J
Dolliver
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 9:36 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: MPE/iX patches on ITRC after 2006

<<As for the date when they'd be removed from ITRC, we haven't set one.  I
thought that was good news.>>
there is no good new that coms direct from HP since 11/14/01.

the words <<commitments to maintain>>
Hmmm
maintain and commitment are again words from HP that mean nothing to the
HP3000 users. Service for the HP3000 even with contracts are at best no
better than a joke.
<<Sorry if those points weren't clear in my earlier posting>>
The only thing clear from HP is that the HP3000 users have been screwed over
time and time again.

As for Kens comments. HP has made only one thing clear to all in the HP3000
community. YOU GET NOTHING BUT A SONG and DANCE. When the music stops there
will be nothing left to chair.

Mike you may be an advocate for the HP3000 but do you really think your
company stands by you? Look around and look into the eyes of the people that
make the decisions to help. If you are not looking at an honest person then
how can you work with them.

comments are my own but I think shared by many.
-------------- Original message from Mike Paivinen <[log in to unmask]>:
--------------


> OK, let me try to be more specific, then. It's possible that *all* of the
> MPE/iX patches on ITRC may be available after end-of-support, but we've
> only made commitments to maintain the 6.5, 7.0, and 7.5 patches. So, if
> you're on a release older than 6.5, don't count on them staying there.
>
> As for the date when they'd be removed from ITRC, we haven't set one. I
> thought that was good news. I expect that sufficient notice will be given
> to the e3000 community before those patches are taken off of ITRC,
whenever
> that occurs in the future.
>
> Sorry if those points weren't clear in my earlier posting,
>
> MikeP
>
> Chuck Ryan wrote:
> > I think Ken might have been refering to the total absense of any usefull
> > information in the post.
> >
> > Mike's post boiled down to... We have not said anything about point one
> > and will not say anything about point 2, hope this was helpful.
> >
> > Sheesh!
> >
> > Comments are my own, not my employer's... Etc.
> >
> >



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