At 04:04 PM 11/14/2002 -0500, Schwartzman, Zelik wrote:
>John
>
>My only comment is one that I have stated many times over and over.  I would
>be really hard pressed to run a mission critical application on a machine
>that when it craps out you shut it off and turn it back on again.  Imagine
>running a full blown MRP process on a PC for 5 hours then the system locks
>up and you have to power down ?????? Good luck.  Remember Billy Gates when
>he demonstrated his new Windows version on national TV and it locked up....
>Hence my vote is to write an emulator on a much more stable platform.  Even
>though I have real sour feelings about what HP has done to the 3000, an
>HP-UX box is a whole lot more reliable than a PC. But then again HP-UX is
>not the most friendliest of systems...case in point "wq!" (double-u-Q-BANG)
>:)   :)    :{

I am not sure that an Intel box is inherently any less reliable, assuming
it is made up of high quality components.  You can use error correcting
memory, SCSI, raid arrays, etc. and if you do then the reliability is
great.  I suspect that the reason that you reboot is more to do with a
mickey mouse operating system written by a cast of thousands of green
graduates (M$) than the hardware.  Even running windows (an NT derivative
such as Win2000), the system is pretty reliable if you can contain yourself
and only run one application on a box.  I am sure that Denys will tell you
how reliable his windows systems are and my experience has been similar.


>Hey here's a novel idea....put the emulator on an IBM OS390 or maybe a SUN
>box.  Now your talking stability  PS Sun blows HP-UX away
>
>Zelik
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Korb [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 2:16 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Which MPE on the Emulator
>
>
>Each day that there is not an MPE/iX emulator running on Intel hardware
>reduces the likely hood of our running MPE/iX on such an emulator and
>increases the likely hood of us migrating to Linux.
>
>Implied in the above is that the emulator shouldn't require HP 9000
>hardware or the HP-UX operating system.  I can't see an emulator running on
>other than Intel hardware being a success.  The comment "The same points HP
>used to justify killing MPE apply to HP-UX, so now is the time to start
>moving off of the proprietary HP-UX OS and onto Linux".  Effectively, in
>killing MPE HP has severely wounded HP-UX and added considerable doubt
>about its future.
>
>That said, the applications we currently have running make use of MPE/iX
>7.0 features.  Running on a prior version of MPE/iX isn't an option.  From
>my perspective, building an emulator for anything other than 7.5 (or, at a
>stretch, 7.0) is no better than no emulator at all.
>
>John


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