Neil,

   Now that I agree with :)  If HP gets out of the computer business all
together then this "HP hardware" requirement should be waived.

Thanx,
   Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: OpenMPE Support Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
Neil Harvey
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 7:59 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [OPENMPE] PA-RISC Emulator


Well then, something that allows continued use when HP abandons all
computing platforms.
Unless the emulator can run on PA-RISC Inkjet cartridges....;)
 
Neil
 

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: Jonathan M. Backus [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
        Sent: Mon 9/30/2002 12:57 AM 
        To: [log in to unmask] 
        Cc: 
        Subject: Re: PA-RISC Emulator
	
	

        Neil, 

                The planned requirement (as I understand it) would not
stipulate 
        "Intel platforms", but rather HP (or Compaq) on the box.  It's up to
the 
        emulator vendors to decide what platform(s) they support, i.e.
Windows, 
        Linux, HP-UX, etc.  In theory a vendor could choose to create a
PA-RISC 
        emulator that runs on IA-64 and then MPE/iX would be on IA-64
(albeit, 
        through an emulator). 

        Thanx, 
                Jon 

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: OpenMPE Support Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf
Of 
        Neil Harvey 
        Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 3:02 AM 
        To: [log in to unmask] 
        Subject: Re: [OPENMPE] PA-RISC Emulator 


          
        While I disagree with this restriction, I would suggest that
something will 
        have to built into the license agreement that allows continued use
of the 
        emulator on hardware other than HP, when HP terminates Intel
platforms. 
          
        HP has a clear history of abandoning hardware platforms. 
          
        I'd hate to find myself in the same situation I do now when HP
announces EOL 
        on all PC/Server hardware in 2006..... 
          
        Neil 
          
          

                -----Original Message----- 
                From: Jon Backus [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
                Sent: Thu 9/26/2002 6:20 PM 
                To: [log in to unmask] 
                Cc: 
                Subject: PA-RISC Emulator 
                
                

                   Currently there are two potentual companies interested in
the 
        creation of a 
                PA-RISC emulator, Allegro and SRI.  I believe both companies
are on 
        the list 
                and can speak for themselves.  I personally found the HP
news on 
        this topic to 
                be positive progress.  Naturally the details will determine
just how 

                positive.  One requirement HP is placing on the licensing of
MPE on 
        an 
                emulatored PA-RISC environment is that it must be on HP
hardware.  A 
        quick 
                pole of the room on how many people were interested in an
emulator 
        showed 
                roughly 90% - 95% were interested.  Then asked how many
would not be 

                interested if they had to run it on HP hardware less then 5%
lowered 
        their 
                hands. 

                Thanx, 
                   Jon Backus