while this is possibly the wrong forum, bingo; I sure hope the gods at HP
are watching (and paying attention).

Why can't HP get over the idea that THEY are the police, and simply verify
that their license exists?  The only reason I see is that they've kept
internal departments too isolated and procedure-laden.

If I'm willing to stick my name on it, that's a pretty good hint that it's
not stolen, but if it is, I'm giving the real police a pretty good idea
where to find it.

I'm also pointing out its current location to HP, in case they're worried
that this long-lost box is out there running in ssconfig-improved mode and
they feel like subpoenaing the box to check it.

I don't CARE who bought the license, only that it exists.  HP, being the
issuing party to that license, should be able to freely acknowledge its
existence and content, specifically excepting confidential customer info
unless need-to-know arises in the context of law enforcement.  And my simple
affidavit declaring ownership should be more than plenty for them to
transfer an existing license-to-run.

Grr!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Guy Avenell [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:00 PM
> To: Tracy Pierce; [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Re: MPE Licensing (Thanks to Jeff Vance)
>
>
> Ditto from me.  When a company goes bankrupt and sells off
> their systems,
> you can't get a license transfer unless the person at the now defunct
> company signs it over to you.  They know who the owner/user
> was but it is
> confidential information and they need to protect the user's
> information.
> THE COMPANY WENT BANKRUPT!!
> Catch-22 is right.
>
> Guy Avenell
> www.hptraderonline.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tracy Pierce" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:12 AM
> Subject: Re: MPE Licensing (Thanks to Jeff Vance)
>
>
> > I'd very gladly pay $500 to license MPE *RIGHT NOW* even
> though the box I
> > want to license IS already licensed - I just don't happen
> to hold that
> > license, and the alleged licensee no longer exists.
> >
> > I'd sure like to see HP get a little less draconian about
> this; if the
> > software licenses really exist in any way shape or form, HP
> should have
> > access to those (being the licensor) and should thus be
> able to tell me
> > "That system is stolen!" or whatever, such as "we sold that
> box on x/y/z
> to
> > abc inc with license to run MPE, Image, etc, for 100
> users".  Then if they
> > want to put my name on it, based on my claim of ownership, amen.
> >
> > Instead I'm being told, after going thru circular telephone
> connections
> and
> > rigid HP-internal catch-22 procedures, that I have a 600-lb
> paperweight.
> >
> > Tracy (thursday rant, sorry, I know hp's reading this) Pierce
> > 415-923-2266
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Cecile Chi [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:46 AM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: MPE Licensing (Thanks to Jeff Vance)
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 12/19/02 8:13:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> > > [log in to unmask] writes:
> > >
> > > << The $500 ballpark for new MPE license (one time cost)
> is flat-out
> > >  unacceptable.
> > >   >>
> > >
> > > Oh, I think it's a bargain!
> > >
> > > Cecile
> > >
> >
>