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"Schwartzman, Zelik" <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 23 Oct 2002 09:14:56 -0400
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I dont know what all the hubbub is all about regarding the HP SUSAN number.
In my many MANY experiences doing disaster recovery of failed systems I've
never had any problems with third party vendors providing temporary keys to
their software.  Some vendors will provide you keys right there on the spot
while others (like ROC software) request faxes or other documentation.  All
the vendors I have contacted at the time of DR have been very helpful.
After the temp keys have been installed the vendors have always been very
helpful in providing permanent keys if the HPCPUTYPE or HPSUSAN number has
indeed changed.  Naturally if the change put the customer at a different
tier level an invoice was quick to follow.

I really find it amazing how many companies dont have a workable disaster
recovery plan.  If you dont,  put one together.  If you dont even know where
to start,  I'll be happy to provide to you my insights as to how to create a
real DR plan that can save your company (and your job).

  I leave you with one simple statement that made HP famous (or infamous as
the case may be).....WHAT IF

Zelik

-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Lheureux [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:47 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: A No for SSConfig


Most sensible software vendors have built in their software a "backdoor" (I
don't really like the word ...) that allows a temporary usage of the product
for, say, seven days. This gives ample time to setup a DRP system and
validate the software for good the next morning, or replace a CPU board, or
more. We at APPIC certainly have such a time-buying facility.

Christian Lheureux
Responsable du Departement Systemes et Reseaux / Head of Systems and
Networks Department
APPIC R.H.
business partner hp invent
Tel : +33-1-69-80-97-22   /   Fax : +33-1-69-80-97-14 / e-mail :
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AIM nickname : MPE Evangelist
"Le Groupe APPIC recrute, contactez nous !"



> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : OpenMPE Support Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]]De la part de
> Wayne R. Boyer
> Envoye : mardi 22 octobre 2002 00:39
> A : [log in to unmask]
> Objet : Re: A No for SSConfig
>
>
> In a message dated 10/21/02 9:31:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
>
> > Unfortunately some of my current software vendors do not
> appear to fit your
> > description since they can barely get me a temporary key
>
> While I am completely in favor of an adequate solution to the SSCONFIG
> problem that is looming on the horizon, wouldn't it be nice
> for software
> vendors to build in altnernative HPSUSAN type logic into
> their software so
> that for example, a customer in BIG TROUBLE could call some
> central 24 hour
> 800 type number, tell them the current HPSUSAN number and get
> a secret code
> of some sort to allow the software to run on an alternate
> machine say for 10
> days????  It's quite doable.
>
> Anybody want me to write some software to automate the 24
> hour 800 number
> function?  That's doable as well.  Solves lots of potential problems.
>
> Wayne Boyer
> Cal-Logic
>

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