Dear Donna,
How can I speak out to HP that I would want to certify as a MPE/iX specialist?
Now that I have the experience and HP announced to keep supporting MPE/iX for 2 years longer a certificate might be a plus.
Met vriendelijke groeten/kind regards,
Jan Gerrit Kootstra
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Topics of the day:
1. MPE Certification Announcement (4)
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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:03:01 -0700
From: donna hofmeister <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: MPE Certification Announcement
The OpenMPE Board of Director's is pleased to announce that HP has
agreed to reinstate the credentials for certified MPE/iX System
Administrators and Presales Professionals. This effort, led by Board
member Paul Edwards, indicates that success is possible even when the
odds seem insurmountable!
The Board is continuing to advocate with HP for the tests to be
re-administered so that certificate holders can regain their active
status and people wishing to document their knowledge of MPE can
achieve certification.
If you'd like to read more about this, please visit:
http://3000newswire.blogs.com/3000_newswire/2006/08/3000_certificat.html
If MPE certification is important to you, please speak out to let HP
know that you want it!
For the Board of Directors,
Donna Hofmeister
Secretary
Donna Hofmeister, HP-CSA Sr. System Programmer
dgarverick -at- longs -dot- com
925-210-6631 Longs Drug Stores
>>>MY opinions, not Longs Drug Stores'<<<
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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:37:37 -0700
From: Jim Chance <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: MPE Certification Announcement
I a 22 yr. IT guy with 16 yrs. HP3k and personally I
don't know why anyone would want to pursue or care
about this particular cert. Just my opinion. As much
as I hate it, the HP3k market, shops, places with it
fully running production, conferences/workshops, new
sales, new ERP on that platform, and technical
knowledge is DEAD or quickly DYING. When will folks
realize this? Turnover to other platforms and skills
is at an all time high. Universities and corporations
are de-commissioning there boxes at an astounding
rate. How do I know this, by being a contractor since
1997. I could go on and on about this trend. I
asked......who was it, I forget, but some vendor who
puts on training to become MPE cert isn't getting ANY
paying students, none. So why does the board or anyone
else lobby for something that frankly - and
realistically, just plan out isn't in "demand"? I
appreciate efforts, but really? I can think of a dozen
former and/or dwindling HP3k guys who are now pursuing
MS cert's; there is no way they'd want to spend $ or
time on certifying as MPE.
Hmmmmm.
--- donna hofmeister <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> The OpenMPE Board of Director's is pleased to
> announce that HP has
> agreed to reinstate the credentials for certified
> MPE/iX System
> Administrators and Presales Professionals. This
> effort, led by Board
> member Paul Edwards, indicates that success is
> possible even when the
> odds seem insurmountable!
>
> The Board is continuing to advocate with HP for the
> tests to be
> re-administered so that certificate holders can
> regain their active
> status and people wishing to document their
> knowledge of MPE can
> achieve certification.
>
> If you'd like to read more about this, please visit:
>
http://3000newswire.blogs.com/3000_newswire/2006/08/3000_certificat.html
>
> If MPE certification is important to you, please
> speak out to let HP
> know that you want it!
>
> For the Board of Directors,
>
> Donna Hofmeister
> Secretary
>
> Donna Hofmeister, HP-CSA Sr. System Programmer
> dgarverick -at- longs -dot- com
> 925-210-6631 Longs Drug Stores
>
> >>>MY opinions, not Longs Drug Stores'<<<
>
> __________________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:16:43 -0500
From: Paul Edwards <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: MPE Certification Announcement
Your comments show that you don't understand the details of this situation.
If you don't have the MPE/iX certifications, you can't get them now. Only
the people who received the certifications originally, are affected by this
program because their certifications are restored as "inactive". That means
we can now have access again to the HP Certified Professionals web site.
There, we are encouraged to obtain additional certifications on other
disciplines.
There will be loss of HP3000 professionals continually over the next few
years. This means those HP3000 customers who wait to migrate for a few years
won't have the talent pool to choose from for help in their migration
projects. It will be important for these customers to be able to find
certified HP3000 professionals who have the proper technical skills to
assist them in their future migrations. There are still a large number of
small and medium sized customers who have made the choice to homestead for
some time in the future.
MPE-Education.Com has been contacted by several companies who have expressed
interest in MPE training and some have been invoiced for the MPE/iX
Fundamentals class in November.
***************************************************************
CDR Paul Edwards USNR Ret. HP 3000/9000 Certified Consultant
Paul Edwards & Associates Phone: (972) 242-6660
1506 Estates Way Fax : (972) 446-9022
Carrollton TX 75006 Cel : (214) 384-8728
Email: [log in to unmask] Web : www.peassoc.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: OpenMPE Support Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jim
Chance
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 4:38 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [OPENMPE] MPE Certification Announcement
I a 22 yr. IT guy with 16 yrs. HP3k and personally I don't know why anyone
would want to pursue or care about this particular cert. Just my opinion. As
much as I hate it, the HP3k market, shops, places with it fully running
production, conferences/workshops, new sales, new ERP on that platform, and
technical knowledge is DEAD or quickly DYING. When will folks realize this?
Turnover to other platforms and skills is at an all time high. Universities
and corporations are de-commissioning there boxes at an astounding rate. How
do I know this, by being a contractor since 1997. I could go on and on about
this trend. I asked......who was it, I forget, but some vendor who puts on
training to become MPE cert isn't getting ANY paying students, none. So why
does the board or anyone else lobby for something that frankly - and
realistically, just plan out isn't in "demand"? I appreciate efforts, but
really? I can think of a dozen former and/or dwindling HP3k guys who are now
pursuing MS cert's; there is no way they'd want to spend $ or time on
certifying as MPE.
Hmmmmm.
--- donna hofmeister <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> The OpenMPE Board of Director's is pleased to announce that HP has
> agreed to reinstate the credentials for certified MPE/iX System
> Administrators and Presales Professionals. This effort, led by Board
> member Paul Edwards, indicates that success is possible even when the
> odds seem insurmountable!
>
> The Board is continuing to advocate with HP for the tests to be
> re-administered so that certificate holders can regain their active
> status and people wishing to document their knowledge of MPE can
> achieve certification.
>
> If you'd like to read more about this, please visit:
>
http://3000newswire.blogs.com/3000_newswire/2006/08/3000_certificat.html
>
> If MPE certification is important to you, please speak out to let HP
> know that you want it!
>
> For the Board of Directors,
>
> Donna Hofmeister
> Secretary
>
> Donna Hofmeister, HP-CSA Sr. System Programmer dgarverick -at- longs
> -dot- com
> 925-210-6631 Longs Drug Stores
>
> >>>MY opinions, not Longs Drug Stores'<<<
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> http://mail.yahoo.com
>
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HP3000, Macola, Jobscope, MS SQL in the states of: OH, TN, GA, NC, SC, FL.
Titles of:
Senior P/A, S/A
MS SQL Admin.
IT Director, Manager, project leader
OR >>>> HP3000 Contract/Consulting anywhere in US.
Can you help me out?
419-651-6704 or [log in to unmask]
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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:06:31 -0700
From: Jim Chance <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: MPE Certification Announcement
Of all the replies I've received, yours is the SOLE
response supporting the cert.
And imagine..........hmmmmm, you also are someone who
can potentially PROFIT from someone ridicuously
pursuing a certificiation in a DEAD career direction.
I could go on with more rhetoric, but its not worth
it, you know and realize the TRUE value in someone
certifying with MPE.
--- Paul Edwards <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Your comments show that you don't understand the
> details of this situation.
> If you don't have the MPE/iX certifications, you
> can't get them now. Only
> the people who received the certifications
> originally, are affected by this
> program because their certifications are restored as
> "inactive". That means
> we can now have access again to the HP Certified
> Professionals web site.
> There, we are encouraged to obtain additional
> certifications on other
> disciplines.
>
> There will be loss of HP3000 professionals
> continually over the next few
> years. This means those HP3000 customers who wait to
> migrate for a few years
> won't have the talent pool to choose from for help
> in their migration
> projects. It will be important for these customers
> to be able to find
> certified HP3000 professionals who have the proper
> technical skills to
> assist them in their future migrations. There are
> still a large number of
> small and medium sized customers who have made the
> choice to homestead for
> some time in the future.
>
> MPE-Education.Com has been contacted by several
> companies who have expressed
> interest in MPE training and some have been invoiced
> for the MPE/iX
> Fundamentals class in November.
>
>
>
***************************************************************
> CDR Paul Edwards USNR Ret. HP 3000/9000
> Certified Consultant
> Paul Edwards & Associates Phone: (972)
> 242-6660
> 1506 Estates Way Fax : (972)
> 446-9022
> Carrollton TX 75006 Cel : (214)
> 384-8728
> Email: [log in to unmask] Web :
> www.peassoc.com
>
***************************************************************
> -----Original Message-----
> From: OpenMPE Support Group
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jim
> Chance
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 4:38 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [OPENMPE] MPE Certification
> Announcement
>
> I a 22 yr. IT guy with 16 yrs. HP3k and personally I
> don't know why anyone
> would want to pursue or care about this particular
> cert. Just my opinion. As
> much as I hate it, the HP3k market, shops, places
> with it fully running
> production, conferences/workshops, new sales, new
> ERP on that platform, and
> technical knowledge is DEAD or quickly DYING. When
> will folks realize this?
> Turnover to other platforms and skills is at an all
> time high. Universities
> and corporations are de-commissioning there boxes at
> an astounding rate. How
> do I know this, by being a contractor since 1997. I
> could go on and on about
> this trend. I asked......who was it, I forget, but
> some vendor who puts on
> training to become MPE cert isn't getting ANY paying
> students, none. So why
> does the board or anyone else lobby for something
> that frankly - and
> realistically, just plan out isn't in "demand"? I
> appreciate efforts, but
> really? I can think of a dozen former and/or
> dwindling HP3k guys who are now
> pursuing MS cert's; there is no way they'd want to
> spend $ or time on
> certifying as MPE.
>
> Hmmmmm.
>
> --- donna hofmeister <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > The OpenMPE Board of Director's is pleased to
> announce that HP has
> > agreed to reinstate the credentials for certified
> MPE/iX System
> > Administrators and Presales Professionals. This
> effort, led by Board
> > member Paul Edwards, indicates that success is
> possible even when the
> > odds seem insurmountable!
> >
> > The Board is continuing to advocate with HP for
> the tests to be
> > re-administered so that certificate holders can
> regain their active
> > status and people wishing to document their
> knowledge of MPE can
> > achieve certification.
> >
> > If you'd like to read more about this, please
> visit:
> >
>
http://3000newswire.blogs.com/3000_newswire/2006/08/3000_certificat.html
> >
> > If MPE certification is important to you, please
> speak out to let HP
> > know that you want it!
> >
> > For the Board of Directors,
> >
> > Donna Hofmeister
> > Secretary
> >
> > Donna Hofmeister, HP-CSA Sr. System Programmer
> dgarverick -at- longs
> > -dot- com
> > 925-210-6631 Longs Drug Stores
> >
> > >>>MY opinions, not Longs Drug Stores'<<<
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
>
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>
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> Seeking PERMANENT employment within a shop that
> has any of the following:
> HP3000, Macola, Jobscope, MS SQL in the states of:
> OH, TN, GA, NC, SC, FL.
>
> Titles of:
> Senior P/A, S/A
> MS SQL Admin.
> IT Director, Manager, project leader
>
> OR >>>> HP3000 Contract/Consulting anywhere in US.
>
> Can you help me out?
>
> 419-651-6704 or [log in to unmask]
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> protection around
> http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
>
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Titles of:
Senior P/A, S/A
MS SQL Admin.
IT Director, Manager, project leader
OR >>>> HP3000 Contract/Consulting anywhere in US.
Can you help me out?
419-651-6704 or [log in to unmask]
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